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what have you got 400 members so 400 x £250= 100,000 that what those transporters would cost EACH  mate so you would need to levy each member £750  to get 3 of them

 

Hi Hotrod

We have 500 members and if each club was to buy its own containers/baskets we are not far short

possibly £50/75 each

Cheers

Homer 49

A levy would work if EVERY member gave freely. Now what do you do with sombody that refuses to pay?????????????????????

 

 

 

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our fed is a good fed,  the more you do, the more they let you do, so if you say  :D£250  this year  they will all agree  Â£5 a week,  then  if they  want  next year the  :Dsame, and   a few sales for the third :D  sorted, but it aint  that easy the  problem is hgv drivers  with no social life

wanting  a hold over for 3 day or a week and you need six of them  drivers   all agreeing, and not falling out with one and other, for the week  at the site :o :-/ ;D

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Hi Hotrod

We have 500 members and if each club was to buy its own containers/baskets we are not far short

possibly £50/75 each

Cheers

Homer 49

A levy would work if EVERY member gave freely. Now what do you do with sombody that refuses to pay?????????????????????

 

 

well that would hit all the clubs very hard as they geraldy paniers are about £150 each, and how do you say £50/£75  each multiply that by 500 is only£ 25,000-£27,500, each big lorry /transporter would cost in the region of £100,000 each . I was told by some of your members you have around 400 members thats were i got that figure.Alf and bigda are right, a sale here or there soon gets money in the kitty.

 

 

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Looking in from the outside it seems you spend too much time arguing about things but never actually get round to doing anything. Why not aim for one transporter for a start say 5000 birds and use the old one(s) when you have bigger birdage which would be less than half the races I would think. By the way what is your birdage charge? I seem to remember it was low compared to other feds.

Guest bigda
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maybe you should start your own golf club for sprinter golfers and just play the front nine and get everyone that plays the back nine to pay more and extra for par 5's as you want at 500 mile races  in pigeons lol ;)

 

hot rod dont know  how you support your club,  but you are under the impression that  is all  right to shaft your fed

there is not a club in the  world, that are not afraid to  charge the going rate,  for  your enjoyment as should be the case

why  should  it  be  left  to rot,  you are in if or you aint, at the price it take to run it succsessfuly,  a lot of fanciers  haven"t grasped that  as yet,  and as  a result  we are now in the position we find our self in,  on the beg  and supporting lost causes.  if you want  the best you have to pay. and if that puts  racing  beyond a few  fanciers then  thats  what  has  to   happen   :-/ :o

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well that would hit all the clubs very hard as they geraldy paniers are about £150 each, and how do you say £50/£75  each multiply that by 500 is only£ 25,000-£27,500, each big lorry /transporter would cost in the region of £100,000 each . I was told by some of your members you have around 400 members thats were i got that figure.Alf and bigda are right, a sale here or there soon gets money in the kitty.

 

 

Hi Hotrod

Whoever told you 400 is wrong and at £75 each comes to £37500.00

Yes a fantastic gesture by Alf and Bigda to run a sale for transporter funds

will ask Ian Henderson for a cash float if required for hall rent and pens etc

for the sale

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

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No mate i am one of the hardest workers in my club and fed and my last club and fed as well, always there basketing even central marking at fed level , i have been secretary  clock setter , president , i help run sales which make a lot of money for the fed and club, ONE THING I'LL ASK YOU THEN  what have you done/what position have you held in your club/fed apart from moaning about having to subsidise the later races. check out clydebank club/glasgow fed sale on a thread earlier in the month , everone of those birds guess who got them for the sale CORRECT (ME)

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Hi Hotrod

Whoever told you 400 is wrong and at £75 each comes to £37500.00

Yes a fantastic gesture by Alf and Bigda to run a sale for transporter funds

will ask Ian Henderson for a cash float if required for hall rent and pens etc

for the sale

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

Homer what has the transporter commitee done lately to get us new transporters as it was set up a couple of years ago and so far nothing has come of it so when are we ( the fed members ) going to see something come out of it??? Or should we just call it a day with getting new transporters as nothing seems to be happening on that front at all....

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Some of the wealthier members of the federation may well be interested in making a charitable contribution to such a good cause.Maybe the possibility of them sponsoring one transporter would sit well with them,there is a lot of wealth within the federation.And there seems to be a particular hotbed of wealth not a million miles away from myself. ;D ;D ;D

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And i have had a few offers of birds if the fed has a sale but surprisingly i have not had a single offer from our own fed yet just from good honest fanciers...So maybe this is where the transport committe should be looking at having sales to raise some money as of now it seems to have been a complete waste of time!!!

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No mate i am one of the hardest workers in my club and fed and my last club and fed as well, always there basketing even central marking at fed level , i have been secretary  clock setter , president , i help run sales which make a lot of money for the fed and club, ONE THING I'LL ASK YOU THEN  what have you done/what position have you held in your club/fed apart from moaning about having to subsidise the later races. check out clydebank club/glasgow fed sale on a thread earlier in the month , everone of those birds guess who got them for the sale CORRECT (ME)

 

Hi Hotrod

Yes you are a credit to the pigeon sport. Unlike some

All the best

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

Guest bigda
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again you go on about me moaning about supporting  there shouldn't be  any support needed if  its costed right.         THEN  what have you done/what position have you held in your club/fed apart from moaning about having to subsidise the later races. check out clydebank club/glasgow fed sale on a thread earlier in the month , everyone of those birds guess who got them for the sale CORRECT (ME)   that is good Ian  fair play to you mate

but the fact of the  matter is  the other guys  are  in the clubs and feds are holding it back and  the  club cost  should  be set across the board  and  no other  club should take deserters  in  to there club,  they are in or they are out,  that's the only way  to stop the rot  :-/

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Some of the wealthier members of the federation may well be interested in making a charitable contribution to such a good cause.Maybe the possibility of them sponsoring one transporter would sit well with them,there is a lot of wealth within the federation.And there seems to be a particular hotbed of wealth not a million miles away from myself. ;D ;D ;D

 

Aye but will he part with any of it??

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The only reason the LOTTERY turned down the LANARKSHIRE FEDS application was the fact it is a SCOTTISH PIGEON organisation.

One pigeon organisation in Wales received £230,000 for two Transporters another £86,000 and only last month £52,000 was given to another Welsh Fed. Clubs and Feds in the NEHU area are all receiving grants.

The Awards For All in Scotland have constantly refused Clubs and Feds by by asking them to amend the Application Form , this can happen 3 or 4 times, then in the end write to the Club saying they dont have enough members and refuse the grant.

Contact your local MSP or MP to complain about the actions of the Awards For All and maybe LANARKSHIRE will have the Transporters for 2010.

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again you go on about me moaning about supporting  there shouldn't be  any support needed if  its costed right.         THEN  what have you done/what position have you held in your club/fed apart from moaning about having to subsidise the later races. check out clydebank club/glasgow fed sale on a thread earlier in the month , everyone of those birds guess who got them for the sale CORRECT (ME)   that is good Ian  fair play to you mate

but the fact of the  matter is  the other guys  are  in the clubs and feds are holding it back and  the  club cost  should  be set across the board  and  no other  club should take deserters  in  to there club,  they are in or they are out,  that's the only way  to stop the rot  :-/

 

every club/fed up and down the country sets out a race program and sets the fee/birdage costs for each race , we all know that it cost a lot to get to the far end , if you priced it at say 10p per bird at start and what you have posted on here before at £15 /bird to go to france , how many would actually send or how many would they send you would lose half your birdage because of cost , now the fed goes  to that race and make's a loss so what next year £20/bird and so on then the distance men boycott the early races then the fed runs them races at a loss WHEN DOES IT END?

Guest bigda
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i suppose i  will have to learn  how to beg in welsh then ;D ;D

Guest bigda
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every club/fed up and down the country sets out a race program and sets the fee/birdage costs for each race , we all know that it cost a lot to get to the far end , if you priced it at say 10p per bird at start and what you have posted on here before at £15 /bird to go to france , how many would actually send or how many would they send you would lose half your birdage because of cost , now the fed goes  to that race and make's a loss so what next year £20/bird and so on then the distance men boycott the early races then the fed runs them races at a loss WHEN DOES IT END?

 

again ian your are worried about the  have nots, who in turn are going to  close your club anyway,   instead of  getting it right at the start,  go to a travel  firm and ask him  who has hundreds of people  going to  France, he will tell you  the price  you go or you dont,  the same if you want to go to  london he has a price  you dont  keep it the same price for  both :o :o :-/

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And i have had a few offers of birds if the fed has a sale but surprisingly i have not had a single offer from our own fed yet just from good honest fanciers...So maybe this is where the transport committe should be looking at having sales to raise some money as of now it seems to have been a complete waste of time!!!

 

Hi

Been on the phone have got you and bigda 10 from the east section so where and when ?

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

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Hi

Been on the phone have got you and bigda 10 from the east section so where and when ?

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

As i said earlier why have'nt the transport commitee being organising any sales to raise some money as it looks as if it's been a complete waste of time..but keep the y/b's coming as this sale may take place yet without any officials of the fed being invloved in it...

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again ian your are worried about the  have nots, who in turn are going to  close your club anyway,   instead of  getting it right at the start,  go to a travel  firm and ask him  who has hundreds of people  going to  France, he will tell you  the price  you go or you dont,  the same if you want to go to  london he has a price  you dont  keep it the same price for  both :o :o :-/

who's ian?, anyway your right a travel firm does set a price to go here or there but it is based on full capacity when there isnt enough going you will get a surcharge . is it not better going to 'a' racepoint with a full transporter at £2.50-£3.50 / bird than going with half full charging £5.00-£7.00 / bird?

 

Guest bigda
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Hi

Been on the phone have got you and bigda 10 from the east section so where and when ?

Cheers

Homer 49

 

did you get us boxes  ;) a felt  pen,  some paper, a mike, a big hall,  show pens, a  :X transporter,   a few good men  ;)    

 

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Hi Hotrod

Whoever told you 400 is wrong and at £75 each comes to £37500.00

Yes a fantastic gesture by Alf and Bigda to run a sale for transporter funds

will ask Ian Henderson for a cash float if required for hall rent and pens etc

for the sale

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

i thought you were going to ask Ian about it Homer or have you had too much to drink already???

Guest bigda
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who's ian?, anyway your right a travel firm does set a price to go here or there but it is based on full capacity when there isnt enough going you will get a surcharge . is it not better going to 'a' racepoint with a full transporter at £2.50-£3.50 / bird than going with half full charging £5.00-£7.00 / bird?

 

nope,  false economy never works in business never work way pigeon men  they dont even  do that at ibrox  so why should we ;D

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