Aged Stock Birds Be Aware

[budgie]

How are the aged stock birds breeding, 5 year olds and upwards it will be interesting to see how many over the years are left.I see in this weeks  pigeon press that they are still trying to ofload their Sh-te Full Brother to this Aunty to that and looking for a Kings Ransom.Remember the 98% rule dont buy anybody else,s Shi-e.If they were as good as they say, thae widna be selling and trying to Rob us. :o

 

[harky]

How are the aged stock birds breeding, 5 year olds and upwards it will be interesting to see how many over the years are left.I see in this weeks  pigeon press that they are still trying to ofload their Sh-te Full Brother to this Aunty to that and looking for a Kings Ransom.Remember the 98% rule dont buy anybody else,s Shi-e.If they were as good as they say, thae widna be selling and trying to Rob us. :o

 

check your PMS

[andrew gooch]

my oldies are fine thank u very much still going strong and will b till about the age of about 14 due 2 a good up bringing and never 2 many bread from them in 1 season.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Budgie i agree with what your saying, all my best racing pigeons have been bred from hens that are less than 5 years old and generally yearlings or 2 to 3 years olds.

 

Are you sure its 98% sh-te i was thinking it was around the 96%.

[pjc]

if you have old stock of your own that are produceing then thats great and you are likely to keep them and keep producing the goods but I think what budgie is trying to say is why do people sell older stockbirds?

Two reasons as far as I can see, firstly they may have bred all they want from them and are keeping there children for stock to keep the family going or secondly and prob most common they are sold on because they are no good and the owner wants to get some of there money back to buy something else!

[pjc]

Budgie i agree with what your saying, all my best racing pigeons have been bred from hens that are less than 5 years old and generally yearlings or 2 to 3 years olds.

 

Are you sure its 98% sh-te i was thinking it was around the 96%.

 

 

Younger birds do have more vigour but i've bred winners from 10,11,12 yrd old stock cocks!

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

 

Younger birds do have more vigour but i've bred winners from 10,11,12 yrd old stock cocks!

 

Have no doubt that with cocks the percentages are that bit higher. But anyone buying a pigeon older than a 2 or 3 year old should seriously look at why it is getting sold, fair enough i do appreciate that entire clearance sales are different.

 

[Guest]

How are the aged stock birds breeding, 5 year olds and upwards it will be interesting to see how many over the years are left.I see in this weeks  pigeon press that they are still trying to ofload their Sh-te Full Brother to this Aunty to that and looking for a Kings Ransom.Remember the 98% rule dont buy anybody else,s Shi-e.If they were as good as they say, thae widna be selling and trying to Rob us. :o

:-/ and what makes you think there SH-T  .YOU MUST BE SOME STOCK MAN TO SAY THIS.

 

 

[Guest]

Would'nt mind buying old pigeons if the price quoted was in relation to the risk factor of an aged bird. I have just bought 2 1998 birds in and they paired together and she just laid, wether or fertile or not soon find out, but they are fine specimens for their age, and to be fair were a snip at what i paid. But some prices i see people are asking more than what the original breeder sold them for, and you could probably buy a lot younger for a little more.

[budgie]

my oldies are fine thank u very much still going strong and will b till about the age of about 14 due 2 a good up bringing and never 2 many bread from them in 1 season.

Andrew its good to see they are still going but are they breeding winners and at that age when was the last time any of their offspring scored. :-/ :-/

 

 

 

[budgie]

if you have old stock of your own that are produceing then thats great and you are likely to keep them and keep producing the goods but I think what budgie is trying to say is why do people sell older stockbirds?

Two reasons as far as I can see, firstly they may have bred all they want from them and are keeping there children for stock to keep the family going or secondly and prob most common they are sold on because they are no good and the owner wants to get some of there money back to buy something else!

Would they sell a Pre-potent pair that was churning out winner after winner. :-/ :-/ :-/ year after year i dont think so as they are priceless. ;)

 

 

[harky]

Andrew its good to see they are still going but are they breeding winners and at that age when was the last time any of their offspring scored. :-/ :-/

 

 

 

did you get my pm

[budgie]

:-/ and what makes you think there SH-T  .YOU MUST BE SOME STOCK MAN TO SAY THIS.

 

Would you sell them if they were any good.If they dont breed winners within four years with a couple of mates bin them dont sell them to try and get your money back.

 

 

[budgie]

Does any member out there no of anyone selling a pre-potent pair which are churning out winner after winner let us know. ;)

[Guest strapper]

where is the scientific evidence that older stock dont breed winners?

where is the scientific evidence that 98% of birds sold are shxt?

 

a lot of older stock birds are sold because of their age and not many breeding years left in them, so the owner sells now before the bird goes barren/or dies or the price of that bird diminishes because of its age.!..if the bird has been in someones loft for years the bird has a very good chance it isnt rubbish!..why else would it be there?

 

i understand there is always a risk when buying older stock but its like most other matters...you pay your money you take the risk.

i know of a few  old birds that are still filling eggs and their young scoring.

[jimmy white]

i have usualy found the best birds are bred from younger stock,no doubt about that,    ,,,but, in saying that, , ive a one off,,,, an old hen off sir colin bred winners allmost every year,, shes now eleven she bred  a maidstone winner at 8 year old  for one fancier,, another at 9 years old,  for a different fanciers,,, and many other birds to win  ,,,, a brother to it has bred nowt ;D[or very little anyway ;D]

[budgie]

i have usualy found the best birds are bred from younger stock,no doubt about that,    ,,,but, in saying that, , ive a one off,,,, an old hen off sir colin bred winners allmost every year,, shes now eleven she bred  a maidstone winner at 8 year old  for one fancier,, another at 9 years old,  for a different fanciers,,, and many other birds to win  ,,,, a brother to it has bred nowt ;D[or very little anyway ;D]

Jimmy thats the 2% i am getting at and thank you for your honesty.A hen who is class in a glass and worth her weight in Gold and i bet you would not sell her on.

 

 

[Chairman]

Young virgin stock everytime, if you don't believe me when out down the market with the missus this weekend take a glance in the prams of the young adolescent mums, there before your eyes is a strong, robust bouncing baby and that usually is the father?

:K) :K) :K) :K) :K) :K)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The hardest part is trying to attain virgin stock these days, a lot has changed since I was a wee laddy. :B :'(

[hotrod]

i dont care how old the birds are as long as they breed the goods ,i have at stock just now 8 pairs ,i have   cocks  2 x 13 year olds, a 12 yr  old ,a 10yr old,2 x 7yr olds,a 5 yr old, and a 3yr old-----hens  i have a 13yr old , a 10 yr old, a 9yr old, 2 x 7yr olds, a 5 yr old ,a 3 yr old and a yearling , so will i not breed any winners this year ?

[slinky slitheroe]

How are the aged stock birds breeding, 5 year olds and upwards it will be interesting to see how many over the years are left.I see in this weeks  pigeon press that they are still trying to ofload their Sh-te Full Brother to this Aunty to that and looking for a Kings Ransom.Remember the 98% rule dont buy anybody else,s Shi-e.If they were as good as they say, thae widna be selling and trying to Rob us. :o

plenty good pigeons bred from birds over 5 yearold .Good distance pigeons can produce the goods at aripe old age if there made of the right stuff especially late in the season .Spint pigeons seem to be a little different being early ripe and early rotten.But must agree that pigeons best years are when they younger.

 

[weecunny]

would u sell ur best lol no matter what its age a widni

[hotrod]

would u sell ur best lol no matter what its age a widni

 

not a hope in hell wee cunny and none off them either.THERE ALL FOR ME .AND OF COURSE ONE OR TWO FOR SALES.

[just ask me]

when buying birds if at all possible i buy yearlings for the reason there not tried so the owner doesn't know how bad or how good he is as a breeder that just my thinking

[hotrod]

when buying birds if at all possible i buy yearlings for the reason there not tried so the owner doesn't know how bad or how good he is as a breeder that just my thinking

 

i will only buy an older bird at a clearance sale that has bred the goods ,apart from that i will buy youngbirds only .

[just ask me]

 

i will only buy an older bird at a clearance sale that has bred the goods ,apart from that i will buy youngbirds only .

 

quite true just watch out hae seen last few year sum guys having a few clearnces also a proven breeder at a clerance sale most times cost quite a bit that  why i stick too youngbirds if at all possible