building loft in garden! whats the law?

[jonl6280]

can anyone tell me how to go about building a new loft in a garden within a new built estate with neighbours at either side.

 

[Tony C]

Different councils different regulations I'm afraid.

[Guest tom123]

im aware down here in south wales (newport ) it aint suppose to take more than two thirds of your garden but else where i wouldnt like to say

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

get it up as fast ad you can

[Guest ShaneGate]

Most newbuilds have built in rights to stop pigeon ect from being kept, you should have read your contract before you got it.

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

tell the neighbours your getting garden doves get the loft up now then see who complains

[jock3]

check ur title deeds that will help . used to stay at tarbrax had problems with council but becase my title deeds did allow birds they were fecked .

[fred smyth]

let the one on each side of u no what ur doing see what they say ,  if they object ur in trouble

[white logan]

can anyone tell me how to go about building a new loft in a garden within a new built estate with neighbours at either side.

 

quite simple

 

                  first , and i do mean first , check to see what covenants are on the terms of residence , most new biulds will not allow you to keep pigeons

[Guest puresoontjen]

just put it up and fight it after. thats if you get any probs

[Guest challengerlofts]

At the new built estate, garden shed is common for neighbours at either side.

All my birds is survivor with my neighbours cat. All i can do is need extra Trellis 2ft Height.

 

 

[BLACK W F]

if i was you mate speak to your neibours  then speak to planning  and also check to see what rules are in place with your council  where do you live and i might be able to help

[jonl6280]

i've not bought i'm just looking at the moment,

 

cheers

[white logan]

i've not bought i'm just looking at the moment,

 

cheers

 

as i have said " check to see what covanants are in place"

[steve d]

Do what I did erect a loft with an aviary on, then 12 months later begin to fly them out, it gives the neighbours chance to get used to it, I held a nestbowl over the fence and showed them a newly chipped youngster, then every opportunity afterwards showed how they progressed, good luck. :)

[Guest IB]

Think the advice to check what it says in title deeds (before you commit to purchase) is spot-on. Its a 2-part thing~:

 

(1) Law says you can build anything in your garden for your enjoyment, and if the building meets certain requirements, you don't need planning permission, but if its over these limits, then you do need planning permission ~ before you start building. and

 

(2) The thing in the title deeds isn't usually about building something, its about keeping animals, and may specifically mention no pigeons, pigs, poultry etc

 

Crazy situation in BHW a few years back where guy got permission to erect a pigeon loft, but same Council refused him permission to keep pigeons in it.

 

Also check with your new neighbours (ones that you share a boundary with) before buying, make sure they are OK with the idea. Helps if you keep neighbours on-side. And get it in writing, so they cannot go back on their 'word'.

[Guest]

i've not bought i'm just looking at the moment,

 

cheers

 

In Scotland there are burdens put on new build/private estates.The burden states that no livestock may be housed,rabbits,dogs,pigeons etc.If you choose to erect a pigeon loft and the neighbors object,they have the right legally to make you remove the livestock leaving you with the legal expenses into the bargain.I have had first hand experience of such a scenario and as i say you have no grounds of appeal.This is a problem and does not help the future of the sport,even if the current neighbours had no objections that is not to say future ones might.I ended up moving house and now keep my my pigeons at my parents house were they are no burdens.

[Guest IB]

 

In Scotland there are burdens put on new build/private estates.The burden states that no livestock may be housed,rabbits,dogs,pigeons etc.If you choose to erect a pigeon loft and the neighbors object,they have the right legally to make you remove the livestock leaving you with the legal expenses into the bargain.I have had first hand experience of such a scenario and as i say you have no grounds of appeal.This is a problem and does not help the future of the sport,even if the current neighbours had no objections that is not to say future ones might.I ended up moving house and now keep my my pigeons at my parents house were they are no burdens.

 

Sorry to hear of your problem. I'd similar bother over 30 years ago, bought a detached house and only after moving in discovered same burden imposed by builder. Neighbours weren't too keen either, even though next door kept a dog which they let foul my front garden. Leased a bit of ground from railway and built a loft there; after a while wondered why I was paying rates for my home and letting other folk decide what I could and couldn't do there so built a small loft in my back garden. Neighbours complained to Council and were told nothing Council could do. Guy down the road from me on same estate also had pigeons, he'd no bother with neighbours.

 

Back then Land Tribunal could alter these burdens, still can, and there's also other provisions in Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003 that can help. Still to be tested in Court so my contact tells me.

[Guest]

 

Sorry to hear of your problem. I'd similar bother over 30 years ago, bought a detached house and only after moving in discovered same burden imposed by builder. Neighbours weren't too keen either, even though next door kept a dog which they let foul my front garden. Leased a bit of ground from railway and built a loft there; after a while wondered why I was paying rates for my home and letting other folk decide what I could and couldn't do there so built a small loft in my back garden. Neighbours complained to Council and were told nothing Council could do. Guy down the road from me on same estate also had pigeons, he'd no bother with neighbours.

 

Back then Land Tribunal could alter these burdens, still can, and there's also other provisions in Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003 that can help. Still to be tested in Court so my contact tells me.

 

I was lead to believe the burden could be altered but only after a period of time being 20/25 years.The thing that really gets you is the majority of the neighbours are breaking these burdens in some way.The hypocrisy is sickening. > > >

[Guest]

Most newbuilds have built in rights to stop pigeon ect from being kept, you should have read your contract before you got it.

 

worked on lots of new builds for all the big house builders never met one yet that will allow a loft i used to ask the sales teams and every one said no its actualy writen in to the deeds best you could hope for is a bit of ground near the estate still not the same

[eastcoaster]

I put a small loft up in my new private esate for 4 late breds it was only temp till they could go to our lofts at my brothers .

i asked the next door *expletive removed* he said ok 2 days later they changed their mind , 4 birds in an avery could`nt see them nor here them but NO PIGEONS were allowed next to my POSH house she said , bottom line you have no chance ,  but i played them to the hilt took the birds to our other lofts (as planned ) and made a recording (as Bilco advised ) and they thought they were there for months after they had gone , they sent me a bill for £800 my solicitor kept up the kidding and in the end it cost THEM £1600 and us nothing (his dad used to keep the doo`s )  so now i feed more than a dozen streeters in my garden just to wind the *expletive removed* up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest stb]

I put a small loft up in my new private esate for 4 late breds it was only temp till they could go to our lofts at my brothers .

i asked the next door *expletive removed* he said ok 2 days later they changed their mind , 4 birds in an avery could`nt see them nor here them but NO PIGEONS were allowed next to my POSH house she said , bottom line you have no chance ,  but i played them to the hilt took the birds to our other lofts (as planned ) and made a recording (as Bilco advised ) and they thought they were there for months after they had gone , they sent me a bill for £800 my solicitor kept up the kidding and in the end it cost THEM £1600 and us nothing (his dad used to keep the doo`s )  so now i feed more than a dozen streeters in my garden just to wind the *expletive removed* up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

nice to be nice.

 

 

[Guest]

I put a small loft up in my new private esate for 4 late breds it was only temp till they could go to our lofts at my brothers .

i asked the next door *expletive removed* he said ok 2 days later they changed their mind , 4 birds in an avery could`nt see them nor here them but NO PIGEONS were allowed next to my POSH house she said , bottom line you have no chance ,  but i played them to the hilt took the birds to our other lofts (as planned ) and made a recording (as Bilco advised ) and they thought they were there for months after they had gone , they sent me a bill for £800 my solicitor kept up the kidding and in the end it cost THEM £1600 and us nothing (his dad used to keep the doo`s )  so now i feed more than a dozen streeters in my garden just to wind the *expletive removed* up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

So are you still on the Christmas card list. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[eastcoaster]

we are having a barbecue next week  there is only one neighbor no coming ?????  TURN UP THE VOLUME  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest shadow]

most covenants say no poultry, pigeons etc and last for a  minimum term of ten years look for an older property as you dont need the hassle of that and neighbours complaining