Delboy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Yes it is , you should take a leaf oot his book ;D
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Yes it is , you should take a leaf oot his book ;D ;D
Guest 67ghirl Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Quoted from Gareth Rankin Bloody hell Delboy i didn't realise that you were that old he was at school with your dad, ;D This is when My Daddy and Kierans Grandad is GLAD he can't use a computer ;D ;D (evil)(evil)(evil)(evil)(evil)
Guest bigda Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 hope i haven't put a damper on the delegates and let the cat out the bag as to the pre-arranged, race program come the agm
Delboy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Danny, here is a fact m8. Lanarkshire fed or any other fed for that matter,have no bearing on anything the SNFC do.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 I think midnight_son makes a lot of good points although I remember them just doing Rennes, Nantes and Cheltenham? YB. The point about joint convoying for feds is very valid in respect of the race no longer being a fed race, but indeed a National one with the differences re fed / national racing which were mentioned. This could be avoided with separate liberations, but it would not be a national and if inland races at national level are now required due to sprint / middle / distance type birds or whatever other reasons then separate liberations would not suffice. If the SNFC decides not to cater for inland nationals then the niche could be filled by combines. This may require some restructuring, but the decline in the sport may require that restructuring becomes a necessity. The aims of the SNFC should point out whether it is formed to promote National long distance racing or national racing. This solves the problem of whether the SNFC should run inland nationals. Glencameron also makes good points regarding inland nationals. Years ago the birds kept in the loft completed the club / fed programme and went to the national. This was before the sprint / middle / distance type of birds came on the scene. Fanciers knew the limitations of their individual pigeons and raced them accordingly. I am not knocking the changes just stating the obvious. His last point “Like everything it is only an opinion but it is one I think is based on assisting the progression of pigeon racing in Scotland for the next X many years. As time goes by we are going to be duly forced into greater cooperation and sharing of resources.†is sadly very true, but it would be better if we were not forced into greater co-operation, instead openly accepted and strode forward towards it.
Guest bigda Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Danny, here is a fact m8. Lanarkshire fed or any other fed for that matter,have no bearing on anything the SNFC do. oh i know that, was just hoping that they would say a few words, on the lanarkshires behalf as to pigeon tariffs
Guest redwhiteblue Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 i personally think that we should do away with the longest race and replace it with a falaise, surely they cant make money going all that distance wi 300 birds
walterbmasson Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 RED WHITE BLUE YOUR SPOT ON ITS RIDICULIOUS 300BIRDS IF YOUR IN RACE TIME YOU GET AN OPEN POSITION SORRY BUT ITS TIME WAS CALLED ON THIS TOURS AND REPLACED FALAISE OR 2 YPRES TO LET FANCIERS BUILD UP A FEW MORE BIRDS SO THEY CAN COMPETE IN OUR NATIONAL RACES AND MOST KNOW IT TAKES 2 3 4 YEAR OLDS TO GO TO 600+MILES ALL THE FANCY NAMES VAN REETS SOOTEGENS ETC IS NO USE FOR THESE EVENTS
Delboy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 i personally think that we should do away with the longest race and replace it with a falaise, surely they cant make money going all that distance wi 300 birds Why replace it with another Falaise? Is 3 channel races not enough ? Falaise would cost the SNFC more because they wouldnt get joint convoyed as they do at the longest race. I dont disagree with you about the longest race being scrapped as it may encourage people to send more birds to the Gold cup race. On the other hand, their are fanciers who specialise in 600 mile races and look forward to them.
Delboy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 RED WHITE BLUE YOUR SPOT ON ITS RIDICULIOUS 300BIRDS IF YOUR IN RACE TIME YOU GET AN OPEN POSITION SORRY BUT ITS TIME WAS CALLED ON THIS TOURS AND REPLACED FALAISE OR 2 YPRES TO LET FANCIERS BUILD UP A FEW MORE BIRDS SO THEY CAN COMPETE IN OUR NATIONAL RACES AND MOST KNOW IT TAKES 2 3 4 YEAR OLDS TO GO TO 600+MILES ALL THE FANCY NAMES VAN REETS SOOTEGENS ETC IS NO USE FOR THESE EVENTS Wrong, positions are 10-1 as any other race. There were only 30 positions awarded in Andrezel this year although other birds timed were mentioned.
walterbmasson Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 DELBOY WE KNOW SOME PEOPLE LIKES TO TIME AT 600MILES BUT WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE SAY WHEN THE CONVOY GOES TO 100BIRDS FOR GOD SAKE ITS A FARCE YOU SAID WHATEVER IS DONE WILL BE UP TO THE MEMBERS SO WHY DONT ASK THE MEMBERS JUST PRINT ON RACE SHEET THIS YEAR IF THEY WANT TO KEEP TOURS OR SCRAP IT CAN YOU NOW CALL IT A NATIONAL 8 CRATES OF DOO:S
slinky slitheroe Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Wrong, positions are 10-1 as any other race. There were only 30 positions awarded in Andrezel this year although other birds timed were mentioned.Why do they get a mention?
Delboy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Why do they get a mention? Dont know, its all wrong because folk quote positions they havent got :-/ >
Chris Little Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Scrapping the longest race will be a bad move, I am all up for a 600 mile race for everyone in the SNFC. Why not race from Niort as we did in the mid 90's, this was a super race. As already mentioned there is a big libertaion with all the North West England classic clubs from Niort in July... why not get convoyed by them The sprinters have got the 2 inland nationals so let the ultra distance fanciers have a right good long race, everyone then has a taste of their respective distances
slinky slitheroe Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Scrapping the longest race will be a bad move, I am all up for a 600 mile race for everyone in the SNFC. Why not race from Niort as we did in the mid 90's, this was a super race. As already mentioned there is a big libertaion with all the North West England classic clubs from Niort in July... why not get convoyed by them The sprinters have got the 2 inland nationals so let the ultra distance fanciers have a right good long race, everyone then has a taste of their respective distancesGood point there are still fanciers interested in the real long ones.
Guest bigda Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 what about the guys that fly, and want 1,000 mile races thought yous where in the distance mens club seems no after all ;D
walterbmasson Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 CHRISS LITTLE I DONT DISAGREE WITH YOU ONE BIT BUT YOU MUST ADMIT ITS PAST ITS SELL BY DATE AND ON VERY THIN ICE WHEN WOULD YOU DRAW THE LINE I ONCE SENT 8 BIRDS TO NANTES 723MILES NOW STRUGGLE TO EVEN GET ONE TO GO BUT TO BE HONEST THE INSENTIVE IS NOT THERE WITH THE AMOUNT OF BIRDS SENT AND I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE BUT IF THE MEMBERS VOTE FOR THIS RACE THAT IS ONE I CANT UNDERSTAND AS THEYRE NOT COMPETING COME ON YOU WONT GET 400BIRDS FROM THE 2 CLUBS REMEMBER ALL SPORTS HAS TO MAKE CHANGES FOR THE BETTER AND SORRY ITS THE SAME WITH RACING PIGEONS FOR MY OWN OPINION ITS TIME FOR CHANGES A YPRES ANY AGE AND A YEARLING YPRES TO GIVE INCOMERS INCENTIVE
Kyleakin Lofts Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 George Gauld timed from Tours?, BICC last June and was on the result. He had to take his birds to England to the marking station. If the SNFC do not have an extreme distance race, then those who want one will find themselves in the same predicament. The SNRPC have Saintes for the extreme enthuisiast, although not on their official programme, they transport to the NFC marking station. Perhaps the SNFC could do something similar or the extreme enthuisiasts could all use SNRPC Saintes.
Chris Little Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 CHRISS LITTLE I DONT DISAGREE WITH YOU ONE BIT BUT YOU MUST ADMIT ITS PAST ITS SELL BY DATE AND ON VERY THIN ICE WHEN WOULD YOU DRAW THE LINE I ONCE SENT 8 BIRDS TO NANTES 723MILES NOW STRUGGLE TO EVEN GET ONE TO GO BUT TO BE HONEST THE INSENTIVE IS NOT THERE WITH THE AMOUNT OF BIRDS SENT AND I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE BUT IF THE MEMBERS VOTE FOR THIS RACE THAT IS ONE I CANT UNDERSTAND AS THEYRE NOT COMPETING COME ON YOU WONT GET 400BIRDS FROM THE 2 CLUBS REMEMBER ALL SPORTS HAS TO MAKE CHANGES FOR THE BETTER AND SORRY ITS THE SAME WITH RACING PIGEONS FOR MY OWN OPINION ITS TIME FOR CHANGES A YPRES ANY AGE AND A YEARLING YPRES TO GIVE INCOMERS INCENTIVE Good to see that you dont disagree with me then The national races are slowly but slowly getting shorter, if they get any shorter I will need to invest in some milers ;D
Delboy Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Good to see that you dont disagree with me then The national races are slowly but slowly getting shorter, if they get any shorter I will need to invest in some milers ;D ;D ;D So do you think we should do away with the inland nats Chris and revert back to the SNFC of yesteryear. :-/ I can definately relate to that. What would you say the average south section fanciers race programme preference would be ?
Guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 i would keep the inland nationals in the program as i think its a good tester for yearlings my prefrence woud be to change newbury for wansted flats as its more easterly and will have less chance of clashing remember us up in the north section fly 400 plus from newbury and 450 plus from easbourne 480 plus from ypres the next race would be falaise at 580 plus if you do away with the inland races i think you will lose a lot of members because through those races your birds get valuable experience to fly out further later in later life
ritchie1 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 well put david thats alot of sence somtimes they forget in us lads up north
Chris Little Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 ;D ;D So do you think we should do away with the inland nats Chris and revert back to the SNFC of yesteryear. :-/ I can definately relate to that. What would you say the average south section fanciers race programme preference would be ? It is fair to say that the inland nationals are here to stay Derek, wether it be one or two. I do accept that we must move on with time and accept change but my concern is the channel races are getting shorter and I dont like the easterly racepoints from over the channel. In terms of a south section preference I have honestly no idea mate, the inland nationals are well enough supported down here with a lot of fanciers being more sprint orientated nowdays, westerly racepoints would get the thumbs up. However, its up to them to get to the AGM and to the talking and voting as the south is poorly attended at the meeting :-/
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