best birds

[alvagate]

hi all who has the best 600mles/750mles birds that a clocked on a regular bases

 

ian

[Guest frank dooman]

hi all who has the best 600mles/750mles birds that a clocked on a regular bases

 

ian

 

thats a big big ques ian :-/ :-/ :-/

[alvagate]

hi frank i know b denny does but is there that fancier who allway gets one at this distance but never the lime light that little unkown fanciers

[Guest frank dooman]

most of the good nat men will get a bird in good race time thats something i noticed along time ago when i was hoping for a bird they were expecting a good one and 9/10 they got it peter virtue is 1 of those

[Guest stb-]

look at the at the past national race results and you will find your answer,

 

there is guys on them consistantly year in  year out near  at or near the top.   ;)

[alvagate]

stb is he scotish is this the national result you are talking about

[Guest stb-]

stb is he scotish is this the national result you are talking about

yes  

 

go into any website snfc snrpc nfc infc and look back old results.

 

some names are almost always near the top

 

 

[Jumbo]

Jim Donaldson Peterhead no question about it

[Guest stb-]

Jim Donaldson Peterhead no question about it

yes one of the most consistent ones

 

 

[alvagate]

that is true but there is allways them un know flyers

 

ian

[Guest KING BILLY]

most of the good nat men will get a bird in good race time thats something i noticed along time ago when i was hoping for a bird they were expecting a good one and 9/10 they got it peter virtue is 1 of those

i dont think peter gets up to 600ml and 700ml whare he lives ;)

 

 

[BLACK W F]

jim donaldson   by miles no one in his league  

[DUBLINFLYER]

i was reading in the rp the other day and ronnie evans & son put up some great performances, winning the channel averages in the UNC this year, so well done to them, very good read too

[john@formula 1 lofts]

Look for David Hales in the BICC  international races over the last couple of years. he also won Dax (I think in the BICC in 2005)

[Guest bakes]

1 wouldnt put it past armstrong/wheatley pigeons being able to do these distances they won most of the mnfc races last season champions of mnfc and trully dissurve it couldnt of happen two.to nicer lads

 

all the best.

[leighton1984]

i do think the scotch birds are some of the best for the long distance as they fly over some hard ground if you look at some that fly 600miles plus they fly on the very flat land when the birds have to work in the valley's takes good birds to win races  

you look at the Dutch lads they fly 600miles on the day but it is flat.

 

[Delboy]

jim donaldson   by miles no one in his league  

 

Totally disagree with you, imo top fanciers everywhere. Granted Jim Donaldson is best in North section but put any number of top fanciers up there next to him and they would do the same as him.

[Albear]

i do think the scotch birds are some of the best for the long distance as they fly over some hard ground if you look at some that fly 600miles plus they fly on the very flat land when the birds have to work in the valley's takes good birds to win races  

you look at the Dutch lads they fly 600miles on the day but it is flat.

 

Now I don't want to turn this into a national or regional slanging match. I do think there are great Scottish long distance men but not many of them have the opportunity to fly 700 mile and that will perhaps be once a year? (And I'm 50% English [i believe], 25% Welsh and 25% Irish, my boy has a mother that's 50% Welsh & 50% Italian, what a mix he is!)

If you want to know the best 600/700 milers you need to look at some of the BICC members who don't fly it once a year but 3 or 4 times a year (I'm not a BICC man myself). IF you want top 600 mile blood then yes you go no better than Scotland. And I always used to be of the opinion that the finest were the Irish but they haven't flown a long distance race in years have they I mean 600 mile to most, I think their main race is tharound the 500 mark. Don't take this wrong however cause the route they fly has to be the toughest next to Lerwick down to Wales and the West Country

[robbiedoo.]

disagree with you there delboy . there has been some and still is some top flyers up here at the distance . hopefuly i,ll be the next one it wont be for the lack of trying .there is no one in this country in donaldsons leauge and remember we fly 600 mile plus up here not 4 to 500 mile .

[BLACK W F]

Jims  performances have been out of this world for years  if you think there are any number of good fanciers who could do what he has

i am sure they would easly get a hoose in peterhead  and can try  no del  they move from up here t o where its easyer  to win  and there are plenty more good guys up this kneck of the woods   but jims just in a league of his own  and thats proven fact

[robbiedoo.]

your right there black wf there was a fanceir from up here that moved down to the south of the country to win the national and guess what he won the national good on him . donaldson is a one off think he has only failed to time in once in the last ten year from across the pond

[BLACK W F]

yes your right Robbie   the facts remain  if jim went down there it would only be a matter of time when he won it and how many he would win makes the mind boggle  he is just  a fantastic distance man problly one of the best in europe never mind  th U K   BUT WHITH OUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT THE BEST IN SCOTLAND   jmo

[Guest KING BILLY]

yes your right Robbie   the facts remain  if jim went down there it would only be a matter of time when he won it and how many he would win makes the mind boggle  he is just  a fantastic distance man problly one of the best in europe never mind  th U K   BUT WHITH OUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT THE BEST IN SCOTLAND   jmo

i doo beleve jim donaldson is up thare with the grates of distance men but you will never make a 2 day bird into a 1 day bird and a lot of the big races down soth is won on the day so that rules him out ;) ;)

 

 

[Delboy]

disagree with you there delboy . there has been some and still is some top flyers up here at the distance . hopefuly i,ll be the next one it wont be for the lack of trying .there is no one in this country in donaldsons leauge and remember we fly 600 mile plus up here not 4 to 500 mile .

 

I am not saying there isnt top fliers up there,( top doomen everywhere )what Im saying is, if the likes of Richard Combe, Jim Hannah, G.Rankin, P.Virtue, J.Hodgeson, were sitting in a loft next to him, then they would do same. IMO it is harder to fly a pigeon 550 miles into the west than 600+mls into the north east especially with the normal westerly winds. No question about the abilities of Donaldson, but definately not in a league of his own.

 

ps.  I know a guy that moved to Duns and was in top 20 open from Rennes immediately with a yearling.He hadnt scored in Rennes before and after winning out of turn, he moved back to the west and barely timed in .

[clyde]

yes the rankins must be top lofts at that distance