chris h Posted February 15, 2010 Author Report Posted February 15, 2010 think am just gona go for the scarper
OLDYELLOW Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 i went back to just the loft white
Guest mick bowler Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 Anyone ever use the wood pellets that they use for solid fuel boilers or wood pellet boilers??
holmsidelofts Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 some of us havent the time to scrape out our birds every day , last year i was working from 7 in the morning and could be home at 7 in the evening but was more likely to be 8 or 9 , and after laying repairing trucks , cars , diggers all day in the cold and wet the last thing i fancied doing was scrapeing my birds out in the dark ! and thats not because i dont like hard work , but this year i changed jobs and spend more time with the birds so i took all my deep litter up and decided to scrape every day . worst move i made . the loft changed the atmosphere was damp and it was colder ect so at the weekend i put down some oil absorbent granules with a layer of easi bed on top and i think its great the loft is warmer and not damp so when your on your knees scrapeing your birds out think of me studying my birds picking them up feeding them tit bits and i know who will be the winner lol I understand that its difficult when working long hours, like most i work but i prefer to use the scraper over deep litter, the difference is i dont have issues in the loft with the atmosphere being damp, thats where good ventilation comes into play and after years of searching i finally have that, i do agree its warmer in the winter. I do use bedding in the youngbird loft but for different reasons. In my opinion and its is opinions of some vets that its good to get youngsters exposed to diseases like cocci early on. it has to be controlled as to much would cause illness but by controlled exposure they build up more natural immunity. once racing starts everything comes out. I dont knock the use of bedding but personally prefer the scraper. Good luck to all for the coming season.
cemetary Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 A use the granules from versa laga now @ £7.00 a bag, i think they are really good for the stock hut, and also the raceing huts, just clean the boxes/perches, it suits me fine, then ill lift them every couple of months.
DAVIDL Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 using laysoft horse bedding £6 a bag from crowthers in wakefield..............only using in stock shed with four pairs but im pleased with it............
Tony C Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 Anyone ever use the wood pellets that they use for solid fuel boilers or wood pellet boilers?? I would do a bit of research to find out if these contain any chemicals that could create harmful fumes when mixed with pigeon droppings. An example of this is a pal of mine pigeons eyes kept watering, thought he had a respiratory problem. It transpired it was the sawdust that he collected from a saw mill which he put in and around the nestbowls, the wood being cut there was pressure treated with oil, the pigeons droppings on the sawdust created fumes that irritated the pigeons eyes.
OLDYELLOW Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 I would do a bit of research to find out if these contain any chemicals that could create harmful fumes when mixed with pigeon droppings. An example of this is a pal of mine pigeons eyes kept watering, thought he had a respiratory problem. It transpired it was the sawdust that he collected from a saw mill which he put in and around the nestbowls, the wood being cut there was pressure treated with oil, the pigeons droppings on the sawdust created fumes that irritated the pigeons eyes. saw dust from a Saw mill can contain desil / oil depending how they process the wood , i would imagine as these are safe for horses should be fine for birds its the build up of amonia if the dropping dont dry quick enough , adding lime helps
steve d Posted February 15, 2010 Report Posted February 15, 2010 This is what I use from the local horse shop https://www.millbryhill.co.uk/equestrian-530/horse-bedding-592/bedmax-shavings-bedding-19255.htm they are shavings but a lot thicker and bigger they sit on the floor and dont blow about, very cheap too :)
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 I understand that its difficult when working long hours, like most i work but i prefer to use the scraper over deep litter, the difference is i dont have issues in the loft with the atmosphere being damp, thats where good ventilation comes into play and after years of searching i finally have that, i do agree its warmer in the winter. I do use bedding in the youngbird loft but for different reasons. In my opinion and its is opinions of some vets that its good to get youngsters exposed to diseases like cocci early on. it has to be controlled as to much would cause illness but by controlled exposure they build up more natural immunity. once racing starts everything comes out. I dont knock the use of bedding but personally prefer the scraper. Good luck to all for the coming season. theres nothing wrong with the ventilation in my loft , i dont think you win 27 firsts in a season when you dont know about ventilation or !! and every one has a damp loft this time of year as when the birds mess its stays damp and dosent dry up strainght away like it does in the summer and your more likely to get cocci by scrapeing the floor every day than you are on deep litter so what you doing in the young bird loft is the reverse from what your wanting to achieve ,
Guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Just as long as you have a good hoover for when you tread it in the house it's good lol
wilkins Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 unless you can clean out 3 times a day you are better to have a dry deep litter i was told that by a vet , but it must be dry
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