Guest IB Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 so if they are illegal then how can they advertise/sell them as vermin traps as for bieng inhumane ian what is humane about rats/cats eating your birds alive wait till you see the after math of a plague of rats moving thrpugh your loft not a nice site and i for one will do what is nec. to protect my birds Lots of things advertised that aren't legal, Frank. I accept your right to protect your birds from vermin, but we are not lowly vermin, we are supposed to be top of the tree, and being there, our actions are supposed to be 'human'.
cemetary Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 I use to have them a lot of years ago, never used them for anything, i just thought they were very dangerous. If when setting them, you were unlucky to get caught, that was you looseing fingers etc, so i got rid of them, and i still have all fingers.
Ian Gill Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 Lots of things advertised that aren't legal, Frank. I accept your right to protect your birds from vermin, but we are not lowly vermin, we are supposed to be top of the tree, and being there, our actions are supposed to be 'human'. I think you will find its the Gin Trap that is illegal
Roland Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 Believe that they are legal... probably under a lincence though. Like Para myxmus for rabbits, Allowed to buy, and store etc. but not allowed to put it down. They do every year around October time, but via January they are mostly over it, like a cold nuisance really now. Like Killing Badgers, don't stop them dragging out the sett and smacking them on the head and then leave convieniently aside the road. Never seen, nor has any of you, so many badgers on the roadside. Now you all know why... when will it be stopped? Never I'm afraid. Like the argument that they carrie TB. Never been proved, but it is still widely believed but the farmers etc.
Guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 think you are right ian gill it was the fen traps i was talking about got slightly misled there not the gin traps
Michael J Burden Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 Well it is going to be freezing this week so they will be ok ;D You need some good rat poison, they may not eat your bread because it is new to them. They are very brainy little things and are fussy. Rat poison is good because it is grain which they are used to. It worked on mine, who found a way out of the sewage system.
Guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 think you are right ian gill it was the fen traps i was talking about got slightly misled there not the gin traps
Guest IB Posted November 20, 2008 Report Posted November 20, 2008 I think you will find its the Gin Trap that is illegal Was actually wondering if Frank and I were talking about the same trap Ian. Frank was refering to a gin trap which I took to be the type with two jaws that close around the animals ankle or leg. I'm sure these have been illegal for yonks. But on way home from work I was wondering if Frank was in fact talking about the 'old fashioned' sprung-bar type that closes when any animal takes the bait and breaks its neck. These are clean kill (humane) and still widely available. Not sure what the Sunday name for them is though but don't think its called a gin trap.
weecunny Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 had this prob they killed birds nite after nite best way a found was three diffrent kinds of poison and change weekly worked well for me keep doing it for a month or so then u can cut back ti once a month that will keep themaway
ChrisMaidment08 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 goood gun with night sight does marvellous job
Guest 67ghirl Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 They really give me the heebie jeebies, i have also heard about guys finding the holes where they are and putting fine broken glass down the hole, they cut thereselfs, then they start to eat there paws, i dont no if this works though. We were told by a Friend who works at the local Council Dump that Rats WILL NOT cross broken glass! This has been witnessed frequently by the workers there. Obviously putting down broken glass would depend on your Loft situation.
DOVEScot Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 Anti freeze is sweet to rats, soak some bread, biscuits, oats, peas etc in it. Place in a concealed ares around your perimeter or where you have the problem. We used it all the time in the mines and they never get immune to it and it never goes off :-/
Guest bigda Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 i think all fanciers should check there lofts they will get a surprise as to whats visiting i have for the last two years been dealing with mice, i put 4 block out under the sheds they last one month, and i have to renew them monthly that has been going on for 2 years now just with mice and the blocks i use are one sitting only, there are millions of the buggers just keeping them down till a manageable level, i went to a mates loft and he ask what i had in the bag i told him it cost me £2 a month for these blocks he said he ain't got mice pr-obs i said to him ill put one under your loft and if nothing comes to them ill give him a tenner, and if there where mice there he would buy a years supply of them for me so i marked the bottom in Case he change them over i said i will come back at the weekend he phone one day later to say its gone, and at the start he was using 6 a month he is down to 3-31/2 per month and he hasn't done his other loft as yet if you get the blocks screw them to a long piece of wood and then put under shed, so you can pull it back out to check for teeth marks
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 i think all fanciers should check there lofts they will get a surprise as to whats visiting i have for the last two years been dealing with mice, i put 4 block out under the sheds they last one month, and i have to renew them monthly that has been going on for 2 years now just with mice and the blocks i use are one sitting only, there are millions of the buggers just keeping them down till a manageable level, i went to a mates loft and he ask what i had in the bag i told him it cost me £2 a month for these blocks he said he ain't got mice pr-obs i said to him ill put one under your loft and if nothing comes to them ill give him a tenner, and if there where mice there he would buy a years supply of them for me so i marked the bottom in Case he change them over i said i will come back at the weekend he phone one day later to say its gone, and at the start he was using 6 a month he is down to 3-31/2 per month and he hasn't done his other loft as yet if you get the blocks screw them to a long piece of wood and then put under shed, so you can pull it back out to check for teeth marks were do u get them from and what r they called
Guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 fen traps ian very similar to gin trap but not ilegal as far as i know
Roland Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Yep, I lay traps for mice regularly, they lay idle, then I miss a week or two, then the od one... same agai, nights draw in and bang 7 or so till none.. then same again.
DeDarren Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 If you check page 15 of this week's BHW, there is an advert/article, 'Science Turns The Tables On Rats And Mice'. Something new for the armoury in the eternal fight against rodent-kind perhaps and here's the website it mentions mate. http://www.eradibait.com/
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 If you check page 15 of this week's BHW, there is an advert/article, 'Science Turns The Tables On Rats And Mice'. Something new for the armoury in the eternal fight against rodent-kind perhaps and here's the website it mentions mate. http://www.eradibait.com/ cheers mate will check it out
Roland Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 broken glass in run that works Yep dad said that... and plane of glass between floors walls etc. ,,, can't gnore through it.
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Bait all areas where activity of rats and mice is seen - particularly along runs and around holes Keep bait dry, as wetting may reduce effectiveness Continue to bait until mouse activity has completely ceased Place (and store) baits carefully, to ensure children and pets cannot get to it Wash hands after use Always carefully read the label and any other information materials supplied with the baits 2. Traps Large, robust rodent traps, can make short work of most rats and mice, and make it easy to locate and dispose of cadavers. Traps should be placed next to walls where mice and rats tend to travel 'Break-back' traps such as the Power cat can give a swift kill For a humane, non-lethal alternative, the live catch traps catch mice without harming them, for later release Traps can be baited with chocolate, biscuit, cereal or peanut butter (except where sold pre-baited) Use several traps and examine them daily, removing dead mice and rats as soon as they are discovered Although the PCP range is selected for ease of use and reliability, all traps should be handled with care 3. Repellers Electromagnetic repellers are a completely humane alternative for tackling mice, which can be effective in deterring mice and rats from taking up residence within a home or premises. The range available from pestcontrolproducts is especially selected for high standards of effectiveness when dealing with mice and rats. In order to harness the deterrent power of electromagnetism against rats and mice, it is essential to carefully read and follow the instructions supplied. Rats : Control Information and Advice Common rats, Rattus Norvegicus (Norway, sewer or brown rats) Common rats have only been recorded in Britain since early in the 18th Century. Rats are thought to have been introduced in shipping from Russia. It is now by far the more abundant of the two species of rats and is widely distributed in both urban and rural areas. It occurs both indoors, and outdoors away from human habitation, and is the species often associated with sewer systems. Ship rats, Rattus rattus (roof or black rats) Ship rats probably originated in south-east Asia and was thought not to have reached western Europe until the Middle Ages. Although once the dominant rat species in this country, ship rats are now rare and confined mainly to port areas. It may, however, occasionally be found in some inland towns, especially those linked to ports by canals, and its range probably continues to contract. In Britain it lives only indoors. General information about rats Rats are a major hazard to health. They spread many forms of disease, some of which, such as Weil's Disease, can be fatal to humans. Rats may eat food that is intended for human consumption, and they often cause damage to much more, which must then be discarded. Rats (along with mice) also cause considerable structural damage to woodwork, water pipes, electric cables, etc., through their habit of gnawing. Rats can be found anywhere that offers shelter and food - including sewers. Rats are efficient burrowers and favour compost heaps and the ground underneath hedges and sheds where they will dig shallow burrows and form nests with dry grass and leaves. In houses they will nest in wall cavities and beneath floorboards. Both species of rats are active mainly at night, but may be seen in search of food and water during the day. The life expectancy of most rats is around one year, during which time female rats will typically breed five times, producing a litter averaging between seven and eight each time. Breeding usually occurs throughout the year but especially in the spring and autumn. Signs of rat activity Rats Outdoors: Chewing or gnawing of any fallen fruit or other food sources Burrowing or displacement of loose soil Gnawing on timber at the base of doors, sheds and outbuildings Rats Indoors: Droppings (approximately 1-2cm in length) Chewed food, food packaging or soap Displaced fruit and vegetables Chewed carpets or floor coverings at the base of doors Control methods for rats: The ability of rats to burrow, climb and jump make them difficult to control, and you may need professional help to deal with an established colony of rats. 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Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 very good post mate thanks alot
mazzie Posted November 26, 2008 Report Posted November 26, 2008 guys if yous only knew what i had to put up with , my lofts are 2 miles from my house at my uncles bus garage its in the greenbelt , in the past 6 years ave had in my loft mice, rats, magpies, crows , sparrowhawk, a mink, squirrels and a couple of sparrows oh sorry a fox as well , i went down one night into my old loft and had 5 rats runing about , a crow ripped the heads off two of my ybs, the sparrowhawk killed 4, the mink wiped out a full round in the nest, the squirrel just gave the birds a massive fright but had a fly away lost 20 ybs , in the end ave just learend to live with them no traps or or anything i changed my loft for a 3/4ply one the rats dont like the glue which sticks the pywood togethr
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