peregrine survey...up almost everywhere!

[Guest strapper]

have a look and read this...

http://www.bto.org/survey/complete/peregrine_results.htm

[REDCHEQHEN]

Thats an old survey

[Guest shadow]

the info is a least two years old .  Time the got up todate :) :)

[Guest strapper]

Thats an old survey

 

yes thats right but no doubt they have increased since then...this was just to show how much they increased in numbers in that year...i would say the rspb wouldnt admit to it but it shows there is a boom in breeding pairs.

 

 

[Roland]

Yep that is 10 years old, but if on continues to place percentages to it each each I.e. add average youngters, then their breeding and youngsters, taking away the % that die through old age, it would no doubt hurt your eyes and sting home reality I thinks.

[Guest numpty01]

like the bit about rerouteing of pigeons????but they dont eat our birds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest strapper]

like the bit about rerouteing of pigeons????but they dont eat our birds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

maybe the rspb think the peregrines call at the kebab shop instead of their local pigeon loft ;D ;D

[greenlands]

I've now come to the conclusion that BOP are one of the main causes that Derwent Valley fed /West Cumbria fed race birds suffer excessive lossses.Some races we are liberated with the Furness fed,South Cumbria on average they have good races and good returns ,our birds will not come past Corney Fell /Black Coombe ( Spelling ?)The fanciers in that area say they can see flocks of racing pigeons heading towards the fells and in minutes they turn and just fly around as if just liberated not wanting to face the final 40 mile journey home.

This is my opinion only.

Lindsay C.

[Guest stb]

I've now come to the conclusion that BOP are one of the main causes that Derwent Valley fed /West Cumbria fed race birds suffer excessive lossses.Some races we are liberated with the Furness fed,South Cumbria on average they have good races and good returns ,our birds will not come past Corney Fell /Black Coombe ( Spelling ?)The fanciers in that area say they can see flocks of racing pigeons heading towards the fells and in minutes they turn and just fly around as if just liberated not wanting to face the final 40 mile journey home.

This is my opinion only.

Lindsay C.

lyndsay i have seen thousands of young birds coming up the valleys and the peregrine having a go and they about turn and dissapeare back the way they have just flown,  the birds eventualy get frightened to come up through the hills and take other longer routes, ie up the coast

 

 

[Roland]

Well pigeons aen't stupid, far from it as often proved. But also they have - a good one - strong intraits of homing and habits. Must put their' minds in turmoill.

[Guest]

It's actually 7/8 years old and the survey is done every ten years, it will be interesting to see the results in 2011 when the next one is likely to be done.

[white logan]

have a look and read this...

http://www.bto.org/survey/complete/peregrine_results.htm

 

interestingly the research was done by the BTO, another organisation infiltrated by the RSPB so they can "massage figures" and show lower counts than what is actually real

[THE FIFER]

just read in my local paper Fife council are reliesing birds of pray to keep the seagulls away as people are complaining about them in their gardens etc,

[Roland]

It's actually 7/8 years old and the survey is done every ten years, it will be interesting to see the results in 2011 when the next one is likely to be done.

 

That was when it was printed. It takes over two years for it's findings to be collected and then submitted / printed etc. at least.

[Guest]

 

That was when it was printed. It takes over two years for it's findings to be collected and then submitted / printed etc. at least.

Not sure your right Roland?  According to thier site the actual survery was carried out in 2002 http://www.bto.org/survey/complete/peregrine.htm a year later than planned because of foot and mouth.   Whatever the year though I don't think that the survey could for a second be called independant and unbiased, it should have invited pigeon fanciers and other truly independant researchers into the study to gain that qualification.  

 

 

[Guest bakes]

might be old survay but +273 god nose how many now  :-/

[white logan]

just read in my local paper Fife council are reliesing birds of pray to keep the seagulls away as people are complaining about them in their gardens etc,

 

hey fifer

            the council will not be releasing BOP but will be giving grants to the RSPB to aid artificial nesting sites , this seems to be very "trendy" right now , the ulltimate aim is to establish peregrines in towns for two reasons , members of the public can see the "rare peregrine" , and secondly once peregrines are firmly established in towns and cities they cannot be easily disslodged .

the RSPB and its aggenda are far more addvanced than what people realise

[Guest pigeon82]

im happy enough looks like they are decreasing over here lol

[ch pied]

im happy enough looks like they are decreasing over here lol

shoosh

 

 

[Guest]

lyndsay i have seen thousands of young birds coming up the valleys and the peregrine having a go and they about turn and dissapeare back the way they have just flown,  the birds eventualy get frightened to come up through the hills and take other longer routes, ie up the coast

 

 

Even though I suspect we are now the most densley populated area for percy in the UK, we do have a slight advantage to those whose birds have to fly up valleys, at least ours can try and detour, once they're in the valleys, their trapped when percy comes up and over,

[Guest bigda]

good to see the peregrine flourish, wonderful sight, some up 300 percent is that how Manny, or is that times x  the mount they used to have,   who cares     

[white logan]

 

Even though I suspect we are now the most densley populated area for percy in the UK, we do have a slight advantage to those whose birds have to fly up valleys, at least ours can try and detour, once they're in the valleys, their trapped when percy comes up and over,

 

i live in the pennines and the density of peregrines has long ago reached saturation level , the damm things are everywhere even on the flat lands of the fens in lincolnshire

[Guest stb]

 

i live in the pennines and the density of peregrines has long ago reached saturation level , the damm things are everywhere even on the flat lands of the fens in lincolnshire

 

they say they are now ground nesting white logan although not came across that yet.

 

there will soon be more peregrines than pigeons and that will sort them.  I do object to the artificial sites they set up on pylons mast etc in flightpaths of pigeons. They have done there homework well my freind ;)

[Guest]

 

i live in the pennines and the density of peregrines has long ago reached saturation level , the damm things are everywhere even on the flat lands of the fens in lincolnshire

 

Hi white logan I lived on the Pennines too at about 1400', until 2000 and then moved to South Yorkshire until 2004 rarely saw any except the one settled by the rspb on the halifax turn off the M62 on the moors above Saddleworth. Sparrowhawks on the other hand were in abundance. I didn't think things had changed that much, my commiseration if it has changed so dramatically

[glenrandal]

lost 35 young birds on a training toss three weeks ago saw percy attack they turned in panic            not one reported