FOUND THIS 100 YDS FROM MY LOFT

[Guest stb-]

every loft should have one

 

AH   a lobster pot, ;D

[Guest bakes]

 

thats  because   i  fly  falcons  mate  so  i  know  what  one is   lol

 

what would you say took it then mick as thats the same as everythink ive had killed by sparrow hawk neck gone and breast gone as well.

 

 

[billt]

So its harder to catch a seagull than a small bird..??

 

The musket is quite small, would never attempt something the size of a gull

[frank-123]

thats not correct i know of some doo men who lost a pigeon to a cock sparrowhawk

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

So in your expert opinion.. what has killed the saegull..??

[mick]

could  of been  a gos  , pere   anything  but  certainly  wouldnt   say  a  sparrowhawk  

[billt]

billit   would  you or wouldnt you say even a  female    would  struggle to hold  that   seagull  

 

Yes I would I've never heard of it, perhaps it was a poorly gull

[Guest stb-]

It looks a very small gull,  not your normal that you get outside mc donalds ;D

[mick]

 

Yes I would I've never heard of it, perhaps it was a poorly gull [/quote

 

could of been

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Yip a small gull.. and its been killed exactly the way a sparrowhawk would kill it..

[mick]

most  birds of  prey  kill  the  same  eat the neck and  breast    so tell  me whats   the way a sparrowhawk  kills  thats different from other  birds of prey  

[Guest stb-]

only difference is sparrow hawk normally strips where it catches bigger birds normally take to there stripping post or ledge thats all , they eat the same way,

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Just cant see a percy having to resort to killing a gull..

 

And do Goshawks not hunt mammals more.. and kill birds thru being teratorial..??

[mick]

wouldnt   say   that   any other bird of prey  would  be  carrying it off    something the  size of  a   pigeon etc   yeah  they  could  

[mick]

a pere   will  normally  take   the  easier option if  its  avalible  

[billt]

only difference is sparrow hawk normally strips where it catches bigger birds normally take to there stripping post or ledge thats all , they eat the same way,

 

Yeh agree with that, gos kills and takes, the s/hawk eats where it catches, until it's light enough to carry off

[Tenny]

it looks morelike an albino crow to me. The legs look to thin to be a seagull i thught?

 

[just ask me]

Just cant see a percy having to resort to killing a gull..

 

And do Goshawks not hunt mammals more.. and kill birds thru being teratorial..??

 

goshawks are the ultimate killer can do both check the net mate lots on there of them killing birds have seen them take wood pigeons with ease there becoming a lot more common and i think they will cause more of a problem the falcon or sparrow hawk  the goshawks i seen killing hunted the birds like a lurcher on a rabbit

[Guest]

It is a Black-Headed Gull, the smallest of the British Gulls and weighs 250 to 400 grams/8 to 14 ounces.   Not too heavy for a Sparrowhawk.

[blaz]

looks like a tern to me small enough for possibly a female sparrow hawk.more than lightly a perigrin falcon or a goshawk.which ever it was you can bet your bottom dollar racing pigeons are on it,s menu. if it is in middle of a park you can discount fox or cat as both would not go to open ground to start striping their meal .

[jimmy_bulger]

looks like a female percy attack to me

[Shortcut Lofts]

I have witnessed in the last week a Peregrine take a sea gull!!

[boxer]

down here in west wales the percy loves a seagull and everything else but looking at the picture it does look like a sparrow hawk {female} i would say the male would b to small to kill that. but those gulls are only the same size as the female s hawk

[chickadee]

It was a black headed gull, they weigh between 200-400grammes, easy prey for most BOP

[blaz]

the one on the left is a gull billed tern.the other probably a brown headed tern. the Black-headed Gull

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