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[Guest frank dooman]

 

;D

 

is that your ans ??

[Guest frank dooman]

 

is that your ans ??

 

no reply ques ans. i would think caught again

[Guest Owen]

The way it works around here is, that the female peregrine will fly with the pigeons or just behind them. The pigeons can easily outfly her on the level. Then, quite often, the male will come in from height at tremendous speed and either take a bird or splits the flock up until eventually the pair of peregrines will cut one out and concentrate on it. They will get under it and drive it up and up until all three are up at a great height and the pigeon losses it's nerve and dives for the ground, the loft or some trees. If they are going to catch it, that is when they will usually do it. And this will be when the pigeon can get badly injured because it will hit trees, wires and even widows in it's attempt to get away. I have stood helpless, many times, and watched this aerial ballet. The only time I have seen pigeons cope with these attacks is when it is widowhood cocks. And even then one or two can get caught out.    

[Fair Play]

Let mine out today came back 15mins later and one bird dead in front of loft saw the cheeky begger on the fence later on male sparrowhawk  7 birds missing two back in the dark trying to get in the sputnik wonder what tomorrow will bring but I will be ready

[Guest frank dooman]

the sparrow hawk will allways come back to the kill within the hr but ive never had them come back to a kill the next they might come back but for another kill watch out fair be ready

[DOVEScot]

the sparrow hawk will allways come back to the kill within the hr but ive never had them come back to a kill the next they might come back but for another kill watch out fair be ready

 

It seems we all have different experiences we have had a sparrowhawk return the next day for a carcass :-/

 

Aye it's a pity these can only be used for catching magpies :-/

[greenlands]

the sparrow hawk will allways come back to the kill within the hr but ive never had them come back to a kill the next they might come back but for another kill watch out fair be ready

 

Very true,will come back, so be ready.

Lindsay

 

[Guest frank dooman]

 

It seems we all have different experiences we have had a sparrowhawk return the next day for a carcass :-/

 

Aye it's a pity these can only be used for catching magpies :-/

 

never seen that dovy they will come back but strike again ive waited 2 days and seen the bugger back but never went near the carcass maybe not hungry enough i dont know

[DOVEScot]

 

never seen that dovy they will come back but strike again ive waited 2 days and seen the bugger back but never went near the carcass maybe not hungry enough i dont know

 

Maybe you are feeding them too much ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

 

Maybe you are feeding them too much ;D

 

why didnt i think of that  > > > > >

[Guest Owen]

The one concilation is that, both sparrowhawks and goshawks are quite easy to deal with. They will both come back to the kill if you leave it where it was killed. And sparrowhawks love small coloured birds like budgies, canaries, and cockatiels. If you have any of these in the garden you will always know if there is a sparrowhawk about. I like to keep some pigeons in an aviary for a similar reason. If there is a sparrowhawk hunting in my area it is best that I know about it. It is no good waiting for the damage to be done before you act. These days you have to be prepared because there are so many of these flying devils about that you are almost certain to have a visit from one. So anyone who leaves their birds unattended or allows them to bath in the open are asking for trouble.  

[catchthepigeon]

 

is that your ans ??

You can come see my birds any day Frank and put your mind at rest that there not raptors.And sorry i didnt know i was duty bound to answer to you  please do forgive me

 

[marmite]

have got an early warning system about 100 yds behind loft a water tower thats inhabited by crows they get up and chase bop off

[catchthepigeon]

 

no reply ques ans. i would think caught again

I would think you are caught out Frank you can prove what your saying can you regarding pigeons attacking hawks

 

 

[blackdog]

oh and i think catch the pigeon could be hawkbait and also a few others could be wrong but i wasnt the last time he was on

 

 

 

[catchthepigeon]

 

 

Whats Hawk bait got to do with it OR whatever it is

 

[les]

i have to agree with shotgun tim ive seen my doo's mob sparrowhawks ,percy and buzzards many a time ,if they are close to them they cant stoop on them jmo.

that is not mobing ,your birds are just trying to stay close to stay alive ,mobing is what corvids do to hawks ,that is chasing them out of their teritory ,like i said ,most of you should read up on the ways of the bop and other birds it just might help you keep in this hobby a bit longer.

 

 

[les]

 

When the peregrine is here my pigeons also fly up to it and cirlce round about it bumping into it,  Fact,   they no it dont get them when there right beside it.

I have seen mine cirle round it for haf an hour at a time untill it wanders of ;)

if the percy was in hunting mode ,9 out of 10 pigeons would be a meal ,no mater how close it keept to percy ,

 

 

[les]

 

my birds do it all the time if they see the bop high up they go up close to it it then cant gain speed to strike and the pigeons seem to know that

a percy can catch a pigeon in a level flight ,easy ,the stoop is only a tacktic it uses along with a lot of other tacktics,

 

 

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

a percy can catch a pigeon in a level flight ,easy ,the stoop is only a tacktic it uses along with a lot of other tacktics,

 

 

You sure... percy cant fly at 70mph on a straight flight can it..??

[les]

one other thing ,if you get a pigeon killed by a sparrow hawk ,and it is thinking of coming back for another feed ,put salt on the dead pigeon ,and you wont see the sparrow hawk ever again if it has a few mouth fulls ,some thing to do with it not likeing the tast [or getting dehidrated because hawks dont drink very much water ]making its system shut down .i always put it down to not liking the taste  ;D ;D

[les]

 

You sure... percy cant fly at 70mph on a straight flight can it..??

go and sit near a percys nest that is on the line of flight ,you will see for your self ,i have seen it happen dozens of times ,just remember pigeons get tired the further they go ,and they will always come across a fresh percy on their way home from racing or training ,or flying for a hour around the loft ,that is why most of the time one pigeon goes missing out of the bunch ,even a sparrow hawk can catch a pigeon in a strait flight ,only very exceptional fit or lucky pigeons get away ,that is why we are loosing so many pigeons ,other wise we would not be that botherd about hawks if they could only catch by stooping alone .think about it .

 

 

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

A sparrowhawk can catch a doo on a straight flight..??? You sure..???

[frank-123]

your a wise man les and i listen to every word maybe more should follow  your teachings

my birds were real warm in the cold winter thanks to there wee jackets

[les]

A sparrowhawk can catch a doo on a straight flight..??? You sure..???

no i made it up ,its a pity your pigeons cant speek ,then you just might take notice and learn ,instead of not beliving just like most on every pigeon forum ,they just dont want to see what realy goes on in the big wide world of nature , .pigeons are only fast with a tail wind ,