swilcox Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Im amazed I had a conversation today that has left me very surprised to say the least. I was discussing a young hen with Raymond Moleveld, she is producing some real top pigeons and we were discussing future pairings, Raymond then said “if she is good enough then i will use the sperm of the Lightenberg to breed some youngâ€. I quizzed him on this statement and he told me that he has sperm in the Lab in Antwerp for De Lightenberg (born 1989) and the Famous 404 (born 1987) which can be used to artificially fertilise the hen, we have around 10 lots of each. He also tells me he has collected sperm from De Tovenaar and Don Leo which i find just amazing!!!!!! The fact you can breed pigeons from champions long after they have gone blows my brains (upto 30 years). Just incase you wonder why im so excited, De Lightenberg and the 404 are amongst the most prolific breeders in Dutch history. What cock from the past would like to keep the sperm of???? Stuart
Guest numpty01 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 you say we stuart so i assume some will be for sale shortly??? on another note sperm from the rubarb cock owner..the llate des powell would be my choice
REDCHEQHEN Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Its amazing what you can do when you've got plenty of money from trading in pigeons
swilcox Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 No i wouldnt think Raymond would sell any but hopefully i can borrow one!!!!!! Red Cheq i really dont know the price but i will try and find out!!! But i think its quite exciting when you can preserve the blood of your very top pigeons!!!!!!!! p.s. my money comes from working and i spend it on pigeons
just ask me Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 seen it been done on one Ronnie bigwwods videos if im right the legend Brian shepherds pigeon had some connection with this
REDCHEQHEN Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 I can't see it being cheap for pigeons - freezing and storing sperm that is It was on a video I watched a few years ago I find the idea ridiculous
just ask me Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 well to keep the the lines of prolific breeders i think its a great idea
swilcox Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 Its different i will give you that Redcheq, be great if you could still get one off motta or parkside superman??????????? ;D
pigeonpete Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 How effective is it stuart? and any idea on cost?
swilcox Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 Raymond said you really need to know the hen and her typical laying cycle as she must be fertalise on the correct day for it all to work... Costs, i will find out.
pigeonpete Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Raymond said you really need to know the hen and her typical laying cycle as she must be fertalise on the correct day for it all to work... Costs, i will find out. Thats what i was thinking, as if the hen not on correct cycle, then would not work, but will be interesting to see results. has anyone done this before, and raced the offspring do you know?
gangster Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 all the original janssen bros best........................wizard of win/pitbull/oude grizz of janssen/segers
Tony C Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 http://www.baycitiescombine.com/artificial_insemination.htm
just ask me Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 if im right u can bring 6 hens to biffs (spelling) and for very little cost u can have your hens fertilized by a cock that has won a major race they buy big winners im not 100% correct on costs or results but i think they guarantee that 4 hens will be fertilized also they can have one hen fertilized by two different cocks as in one egg one father and another egg another father amazing really i do remember to get it done was cheap enough
just ask me Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 http://www.baycitiescombine.com/artificial_insemination.htm that the guy i seen doing it
Guest numpty01 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 jose thorn spends thousands on this method with his top cocks
superstar Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 I wonder if the cocks get a nice mag like the gazette or pictoral to look through???
Guest numpty01 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D faista readers pigeons
pigeonpete Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 I wonder if the cocks get a nice mag like the gazette or pictoral to look through??? pmsl, is that through experience you know that? did make me laugh mate :-)
superstar Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 Seems that when the racing is finished the tossing aint lol
pigeonpete Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 if im right u can bring 6 hens to biffs (spelling) and for very little cost u can have your hens fertilized by a cock that has won a major race they buy big winners im not 100% correct on costs or results but i think they guarantee that 4 hens will be fertilized also they can have one hen fertilized by two different cocks as in one egg one father and another egg another father amazing really i do remember to get it done was cheap enough wow amazing really! what do you call cheap?
superstar Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 pmsl, is that through experience you know that? did make me laugh mate :-) Pete I have no such experience in life I am a good God fearing christian lol
Guest numpty01 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 ;DSeems that when the racing is finished the tossing aint lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :D
Guest blaz hear Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 if im right u can bring 6 hens to biffs (spelling) and for very little cost u can have your hens fertilized by a cock that has won a major race they buy big winners im not 100% correct on costs or results but i think they guarantee that 4 hens will be fertilized also they can have one hen fertilized by two different cocks as in one egg one father and another egg another father amazing really i do remember to get it done was cheap enough how do you go about getting touch with biff thanks blaz
swilcox Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 I dont know if we could do it over hear as the hen would be away from the loft for too long???
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