Super Birds v Super Management

[Old Pied]

Hi All

 

Like 2 hear your view on following...

 

Lets say fancier A and fancier B are neighbours. They race in the same organization. They both compete in all the races in the year, they birds are healthy.

 

BUT...,

 

Fancier A has gr8 birds, better than fancier B's average birds.

 

But fancier B has gr8 management, better than fancier A's management.

 

Who would you put your money on to win the averages at the end of the season?

 

Regards

Old Pied

[Guest]

ill go for fancier "B" , with the better management, " A" may win the odd prize but it would be a bit of a fluke.            hopefully model myself on fancier "C" godd birds and good management.   andy.

[lightning fast]

Hi All

 

Like 2 hear your view on following...

 

Lets say fancier A and fancier B are neighbours. They race in the same organization. They both compete in all the races in the year, they birds are healthy.

 

BUT...,

 

Fancier A has gr8 birds, better than fancier B's average birds.

 

 

Fancier B for me

there lots of guys out there with top class birds and do nothing and some guys can do well with most peoples birds.

 

But fancier B has gr8 management, better than fancier A's management.

 

Who would you put your money on to win the averages at the end of the season?

 

Regards

Old Pied

 

 

[lightning fast]

Hi All

 

Like 2 hear your view on following...

 

Lets say fancier A and fancier B are neighbours. They race in the same organization. They both compete in all the races in the year, they birds are healthy.

 

BUT...,

 

Fancier A has gr8 birds, better than fancier B's average birds.

 

But fancier B has gr8 management, better than fancier A's management.

 

Who would you put your money on to win the averages at the end of the season?

 

Regards

Old Pied

 

Fancier B  for me, there lots of people with top class birds and do nothing with them, and some guys can do well with most peoples birds.

 

 

[blaz]

A for me as he has better birds .his birds are healthy his management is not as good as  fancier B as he has grate management. but with grate birds and average management will win more races than B

[pigeonpete]

Fancier b for me :-)

 

my bird win for others but not me!!! :-)

[Guest]

A for me as he has better birds .his birds are healthy his management is not as good as  fancier B as he has grate management. but with grate birds and average management will win more races than B

 

i understand youre view Gary , but disagree in part , how many new members to the sport have come in with well bred ,or families of birds that win for others ,only to leave a year or two down the line ,failing to make their mark??    andy.

[clyde]

It would need to b as management is very important.  I've known fanciers with good doo's but could not fly a kite on a windy day!  

[pigeonpete]

It would need to b as management is very important.  I've known fanciers with good doo's but could not fly a kite on a windy day!  

 

thats me to a tee!!! but will change it this year guaranteed, Have had some great advise and stuff of people on here. And i can see in the most where i have gone wrong,  

[Tony C]

Sprint racing fancier B distance racing I'd go with fancier A

[pearse1888]

fancier b .. if you have healthy pigeons thats half the battle .. with good management your flying

[soapy]

                  hi old pied ,your idea of good management mightnot be the same as mine ,if the birds are not winning, the management aint right, there are more good birds than there are good fanciers

[rockser]

the best pigeon wont win on race day

its the fittest and most keen that will be the ones to beat

good systems and good pigeons wont beat everyone every week

but will beat most of us most weeks

[tori.no. nail]

fit healthy birds 70% management 30% birds i'll go forB short to long distance racing

[john@formula 1 lofts]

It depends on the level of managment. if birds are fit and healthy fed and watered and exercised well. then i think A is more important then the little tricks/motivation etc. if health or fitness is missing then have to say B because the very best birds if not fit and health still want win.

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

i think be is more important how many times have you herd people say about a top flyer ( IF YOU GAVE HIM A FAN TAIL IT WOULD MAKE IT WIN )now a would get a couple of wins due to the fact his birds would hit some sort of natural form during the season but b would dominate imo

[Guest mick bowler]

It matters not how good a bird is, but more wether you can get the best out of it!

[OLDYELLOW]

should go into partnership and have best of both ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Roland]

A would get the odd one, not many times though for A. they would become ready for coditioning and he wouldn't know. B. when they brought them selves into great condition he'd be thinking it was because of something else, and most likely cock it up. He would deffinately not be able to keep them on song. B.on the other hand will have his birds there abouts every week and 75% of the time some on super form. This would be far too much for A. However the reality is also that B. would soon have a very ood honed family whereas A would always be willy nilly.

[tjloft]

As many people who have forked out good money for "champions" at auction have found - its the management that counts. B for me!!!!

[dwh]

Hi All

 

Like 2 hear your view on following...

 

Lets say fancier A and fancier B are neighbours. They race in the same organization. They both compete in all the races in the year, they birds are healthy.

 

BUT...,

 

Fancier A has gr8 birds, better than fancier B's average birds.

 

But fancier B has gr8 management, better than fancier A's management.

 

Who would you put your money on to win the averages at the end of the season?

 

Regards

Old Pied

 

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE BIRDS TO WIN BUT SUPER MANAGEMENT MAKES SUPER BIRDS SO (

[WHITTY]

A for me gr8 birds will win in spite of what you do to them ;)

[Guest lenwadebob]

Fancier B for me, as I have always been of the opinion that a great manager of pigeons with good stockmanship skills can always get the best out of an "average" pigeon, whereas an average to poor stockman, will rarely get the results out of a class pigeon. For me 50% management, 35% Pigeons ability and 15% luck

[billt]

Don't you all think that those with good management skills are clever enough to have good pigeons  

[andrecrock]

I agree with most,its got to be B for me.I look at myself,my first year i could only get 14th club thinking the less time and effort i put in the happier the birds....wrong.Now with every spare minute in the loft observing my birds recording all activity now they are performing.