Roaming

[kipper]

mine were doing great , but the last few weeks the older cock birds are bringing them down to chase the hens, thinking of splitting them .  but they are training well , so not too sure. any advise welcome .

[Tony C]

mine were doing great , but the last few weeks the older cock birds are bringing them down to chase the hens, thinking of splitting them .  but they are training well , so not too sure. any advise welcome .

 

That's how I race mine kipper, trained 2-3 times a week throughout racing from 40 mile.

[whiteflighted]

split

[chickadee]

Is there a difference between ranging and roaming as Valiant suggested that I should get them out ranging, he keeps his ybs up for at least an hour with the use of a flag

[Tony C]

Is there a difference between ranging and roaming as Valiant suggested that I should get them out ranging, he keeps his ybs up for at least an hour with the use of a flag

 

Same meat different gravy, roaming ranging running all the same thing.

[chickadee]

 

Same meat different gravy, roaming ranging running all the same thing.

 

Thanks

[BLACK W F]

I ALWAYS FOUND IF THEY DID NOT GO RUNNING  HAD TO BE TRAINED SLOWLY 5ML A FEWTIMES  AND BUILD UP SLOWLY  EVEN IF THEY DOING AN HOUR  BUT THATS JUST MY THOUGHTS

[Guest cloudview]

try giving a quarter feed , about an hour before letting them out .

mine also haven.t ranged two years on the trot , but started as soon as they began training , this went on up their fourth race

[Guest spin cycle]

Glad I am not alone, but after the same thing last year, when I did decide to take them training I had a disaster, lost most. I know there could have been 101 reasons for last years losses, but it does sow the seed of doubt in your mind. I know I live in the countryside and can see for miles, so maybe I am being over cautious.

Then, living in towns, once they go over the roof tops they are out of sight, but I suppose they could be circling half a mile down the road, who knows

 

think you could be right being 'able to see for miles ' as opposed to living in a town etc.all may i open the trap in the morning and close it at lunch...start training in june. i just assume they'd go roaming. if you're letting them out/get them in at set times are they perhaps waiting for the 'corn tin to rattle' and not bothering ...or are they going and you're not missing them ?

[Guest]

no real secret, just feeding them plenty ;-)

thanks for the reply Rasbull , andy .

 

 

[Guest Owen]

I think that I must like worrying about the pigeons. First it was that they were slow to get up and fly. Then it was that some of them took ages to bunch. Now it is that they have had 5 tosses from 5 miles or so and they have beaten me back each time. Usually my young birds are at least an hour on the wing from the same spot. I have always thought it to be good that they have to work, and surely it has got to be good to have time on the wing. This lot are doing neither. They have been home before me every single time up till now. My worry is that they are bound to have a bump soon as the distance gets more. Next week they will be taken to 12 miles twice a day all week, weather permitting. That ought to sort the lazy little devils out.

[pigeonpete]

pigeonpete

the answer to your question is yes. The rider is that you need to make sure that they are in good health. I had an incident a couple of years ago that might help you.

My young birds would not fly. They had been on darkness and looked great. All they had in their minds was hanging about at the loft and it took ages before they took off at all. Time was going on and there was no away that I could train them. I phoned David Parsons the vet for advice. "Have you tested them for cocci and canker" he asked? "No", I replied. "Well why don't you do it, you have a microscope", he advised.

They were full of cocci and some hair worm as well. It took me three treatments of Baycox to finally sort them out. They went on to win the first race and I had a good season with them after that.

So, perhaps you should get them checked out before you risk them in the basket. I live near Pontypool, and if you are close I will do the check for you.

 

 

Cheers for that owen, yes i did have them checked, they are fine all been treated as precaution anyway, So i bit the bullet yesterday, put all 17 of them in the basket, took them 4 miles, same place i always take them( had a disaster there last year only 8 out of 52 made it under there own steam on the night ended up with 18 to race) let them out at 13.30  took me less than 10 mins for the 4 mile drive back. got back looked accross the lake and n/e wind i thought here we go again! 20 mins gone nowt! then after 22 mins they all come together, flew for another 20 mins, and would not come in. (werent hungry) but i was pleased with that :-) and never been off roaming :-)

 

[Guest Owen]

Well done pigeonpete. My experience is much the same as yours. The slight differance was that mine started to roam and I cracked down on them straight away. I reduced the feed and let them out in the evenings rather than earlier in the day.

My opinion is that I should be training them to come straight home rather than training them to fly for hours on end. Over the years, I have noticed that most of the Fanciers who have them flying for hours, don,t do all that well in racing. Providing the birds are healthy, I have found mine do best when I keep control of them. Besides, at this stage of the season, they should be concerned with pairing up and making nests. Don't take from that, that I allow them to pair and lay. I don't. They will be split up in a couple of weeks and flown with the sexes separated.

Best of luck mate

Owen

[wilkins]

very interseting post's from owen ,on this topic good reading