louella

[van Roberts]

surprised me what about champion super lou they soon found his pedigree. thats what i was told he was the free one buy 5 get 1 free but they may have keep records back then?

[Guest karl adams]

the pair witch i have were given to me last year 07 and they are only 06 birds they have never been out of a loft i have not had any young out of them as they may be nest mates

[OLDYELLOW]

just try them and if ybs no good split them

[Roland]

Distance Birds eh! Kipps obviously take all the beating. Beautiful coloured and looking birds.

Bacelona Master, Bacelona King, etc. etc. 17 timed in within a couple of minutes (Or was that all 17 within 20 minutes and so many inside 2 minutes!).

[van Roberts]

dont think it makes alot of difference nest pair just do what old yellow said

[van Roberts]

yes i have read alot about the kipps birds any body got them

[BLACK W F]

try Frank Sheader

[peterpau]

I know a very good distance flier from York who buys from louella.

He buys youngsters and races them before thinking bon breeding from them.

He feels that if he buys youngsters and tries them then he will be left with those which suit the type of racing he does and also his management.

 

Sounds like the best way to start for me rather than buy stock birds that produce enless duffers. I would recomend Richard Howey from Northampton. I have 2 from 3 youngsters that I bought from him, and I cant ever remember keeping that many from anywhere.

 

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

There are pros and cons to both ways if you buy young and fly them at least you will know if they perform my motto about stock birds is if they are GOOD stock why are they being sold ??? try buying some auction birds from a good one loft race most breeders that enter these will not send junk you can see the birds results and as most breeders recive some of the proceeds most will give you information about bloodlines and some will even give pedigrees ( I do ) even though the bird may not have won  the  race most are bred very well

[Guest]

I would recommend Richard Howey my Barcelona bird was bred from a hen from him and i also took 3rd club with one i bought from him in 06 and i believe he has introduced the jan theelans i bought 12 in 06 and i think i had 16 sent very genuine guy

[Roland]

Have sent you a PM.

[Roland]

A first class gent, a wealth of free knowledge, always willing to listen and advice, and argueably the best birds in Europe, with the likes of Ron Williamson.

Take a peekers, and then remember and take into account his loft position.

That says it all.

Some write ups of him.....

 

http://www.nrcc.co.uk/Racing/RaceReports/Lerwick/tabid/73/language/en-GB/Default.aspx

 

http://www.nrcc.co.uk/Racing/RaceReports/Thurso/tabid/72/language/en-GB/Default.aspx

 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=frankbristow+pigeon&meta=

[harky]

at the price louella sells them at your onto a winner if you take into account how much it would cost to rare a dozen young birds i.e rings ,jagging and then the feeding of them .if you buy else where i think you will pay a bit more for them only to lose them ,louella would be my choice and obviuosly im thinking of my pocket and yours its worth a gamble.I have won in the past with loella youngins every year i baught them. :)

[allenyeates]

Have bought louella Busshearts(Eagleson) a few times(01  02 and 03) all were £99 for 6 and were raced.Still have quite a few of the originals left and have bred some good honest birds out of them.

[Guest pigeon82]

my dad bought a dozen this year late bred youngsters but he is keeping them as stock if i were you i would do the same buy and use them as stock and breed them for next years racing

[van Roberts]

good idea i think if i decide to buy from louella i want to race then breed from them get the weaklings out first

[Guest pigeon82]

yeah but if you lost all of them then you have nothing to breed off waist of money in my eyes at least you got them there to keep breeding for you you aint lost no money then

[Diydave]

I wanna tell you a story !!! i once bought 6  motta van hee's ,yb's from louella just after they introduced the £99 for 6  to race. the pigeons arrived, and my heart sank !! . all six were full of lice. as you can imagine i was put off straight away, at the end of that young bird season. treated and raced alongside my own , none were left, from that day i have been very wary buying pigeons from unflown stock, generation after generation ,

i am not knocking louella as i think they do a great job in making champion bloodlines available to the working man , but , my thoughts are after a few years of inbreeding to the champions, it takes a few generations to get the "winning ability " back into the strain . the amount sold has to throw up a certain amount of winners ? , but it would be a low percentage i think ? dave

[gangster]

if i was going for some good distace birds id look no futher than  cloudview and peterpau having visited both id have no doubts about buying some youngsters from  2 honest  distance guys ....

[Guest pigeon82]

i still think if i got youyngsters of neone to race i would rather breed them them b4 i race them you know then you got something to carry on the family not saying if you lose them tho but its always good to have ones for stok

[billy wilson]

surprised vallance never mentioned steve stoker delbars cracking looking birds never got nothing off them last year hoping i might get something off them this year they are class got the look of racer show birds

[Diydave]

gangster. you may , or may not ? know 18 of my 24Y.B's when i restarted were from stuart (cloudview) this year. i lost one ranging (another returned wired , so i suspect this went the same way that day, one on its 2nd training chuck at 30 mile (she returned 5 week later with the biggest healed up gash you could ever imagine) racing >> has to look in the book >> lost 1, rest here to fly next year, plus 2 later breds that have had 2 chucks from 22 miles, nice medium sized distance birds that hopefully will do the same for me as cloudview, as yearlings this lot will go all the way to 500 mile !! for me

[schouwman71]

If you buy from louella and want the distance go for the jan aarden birds,theres a lot out there winning with them,my best old janssens came from louella,i have bought some more this year and ime over the moon with them,id have paid a lot more for them else were and these what i got werent cheap.good luck

 

Les

 

[gangster]

gangster. you may , or may not ? know 18 of my 24Y.B's when i restarted were from stuart (cloudview) this year. i lost one ranging (another returned wired , so i suspect this went the same way that day, one on its 2nd training chuck at 30 mile (she returned 5 week later with the biggest healed up gash you could ever imagine) racing >> has to look in the book >> lost 1, rest here to fly next year, plus 2 later breds that have had 2 chucks from 22 miles, nice medium sized distance birds that hopefully will do the same for me as cloudview, as yearlings this lot will go all the way to 500 mile !! for me

 

yes  stuart did tell me hard 2 lose ands do fly well...goodluck next year with them

[peterpau]

if i was going for some good distace birds id look no futher than  cloudview and peterpau having visited both id have no doubts about buying some youngsters from  2 honest  distance guys ....

Bugger me mate, will ya stop it, I only keep a few and none come with a nice long pedigree.

Tiz a nice compliment but, I'm just trying to get re established after moving house. Thanks for your kind words gangter. My birds realy have to work bloody hard and Richard Howey's stood up better than any.