Brother to sister

[carl]

I have a good cock that has 3 first and has been a good bird for me,,but his sire is infertile and i dont have his dam anymore.This cock has paired onto his full sister (nestmates) im just wondering if its possible to take youngsters from a brother and sister pairing to try and get this family back.Will they come out ok

 

 

thanks

[ribble]

try it and see,or you will never know.my dad has bred a winner from nest mates.

[speedbird]

bit close brother & sister 1/2 brother & sister realy works

[Guest shadow]

Personally I think it is to close mother to son and father to daughter is the closest I have gone with any succes

[Chatrace]

Brother and sister happen here all the time,it is called West Virgina Family :-)

[sapper756]

Have to agree, brother & sister too close for me, I would pair 1/2 brother & sister, or parent to offspring to maintain the blood lines.

[lordcornwallis]

matt white of paisley scotland won the scottish national rennes with scotch king this pigeon was also 3rd national. he was bred from a brother sister mating by mistake, matt and his dad got two grizzles from another fancier and paird them together thay did not no that thay were siblings until after scotch kings national performances , i think scotch king was in the top 10 three times from rennes  lc

[PIGEON_MAN]

TALKING OF MATT WHITE WASN,T HE THE GUY WHO USED TO BREED THE BARLESS BLUES

ANYBODY STILL HAVE ANY OF THEM THEY LOOKED KINDA STRANGE WITHOUT THE BLACK BARS BUT IF I REMEMBER THEY USED TO RACE VERY WELL FOR HIM.

[jacksafc]

Carls stated he hasnt got the Sire and Dam so cant do most of the suggestions put forward to breed to a certain line so brother and sister might be the only option.

I'm sure there was a Dordin enthusiast a while back who used to breed from siblings with a lot of success.

[carl]

Carls stated he hasnt got the Sire and Dam so cant do most of the suggestions put forward to breed to a certain line so brother and sister might be the only option.

I'm sure there was a Dordin enthusiast a while back who used to breed from siblings with a lot of success.

 

spot on there jacksafc.

 

This brother and sister pair are the only birds i have from an old burt hession cock i paid good money for,he only ever filled two eggs for me,these are the only two birds i have managed to get from him in three years and they are still here after three seasons.Could i take youngsters from this brother and sister pairing to try and get the family back,  ???

 

 

thanks all

 

[hooky]

bro and sis mating is no different really than mo/son..it will not cause defects in your birds that are not already in the line....inbreeding does not create defects but what it does is bring them to surface..only way you are going to know is try ..what have you to loose?

[carl]

Thanks people i floated the two eggs from the brother and sister and they are full as normal so i guess i will just have to see.if i get two strong youngbirds i will cross them with my other van reet birds and see how it goes.

 

 

thanks again

[jimmy white]

i first paired brother to sister by accident, this pair bred a fed winner

have done this a few times since, one was 17th one loft race ,shu a number of years ago,, but my own opinion is these birds need out crossed after that

[jimmy white]

alistair mcuddin ist club maidstone with g son of sir colin also third with a double g son off brother and sister, off sir colin approx 375 miles[yearling first year on road]

[pender]

1st 3rd and 9th scotch king and louella has a family of the barless blues. matt white

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

brother to sister is ok

then the youngsters off them pair them together

then you are almost back to the original bird

[Guest shadow]

brother to sister is ok

then the youngsters off them pair them together

then you are almost back to the original bird

If you do that you will be looking for trouble to far in bred

 

 

[ALF]

I can hear the banjo's just now ;D ;D ;D

[hooky]

not if you use prime birds you won't!i have inbred like that for many years then just outcross back to a distant relative! start of inbreeding sh** birds and thats all you will breed