wildersmeerch

[aye ready]

maybe oldyellow can help,what is the base of this strain and their capabilities mines are via mr and mrs corkett who obtained the best from from porter and richardson,breeding y/bs for 2009

[OLDYELLOW]

i believe from what i was told by the guy i got 2 fed winners from that they are kellens based and Van den Boshe ( EXCUSE SPELLING ) , THEY CAN WIN UP TO 500 + miles see Dicky Dark his cock was 4th U.N.C Bourge , another is Marsay and Taylor of Great Ayton they topped the U.N.C from Bourge with a blue hen , George Dawes down in the black country had very good wildermesch  

[oscar_]

charlie woolf and clive yates for me

[THE FIFER]

I have a few Porter and Richardson, bought one at hisclosing down sale at blackpool, thats where my original pair came from,

[OLDYELLOW]

if i was after this family i would also consider Kellens and Maurice Matheuews , i tried to get some off Ken Briggs of Smethwick many years ago unsucessfully i may add

[Guest]

Matthews got his pigeons from Frans Van Wildemeersch. I beleive that the Wildemeersch, just like the Busschaerts, Nachtegaeles, De Baere's, and a few other families that escape me at the time being, they contain the bloodlines of Theo Gilbert of Zulte. Could be wrong!  

[aye ready]

thanks for the replies my own are predominately dark ones if this is any help

[Guest]

I have a lot of Dark un's aswell, Dark Pieds, Chequer's, Chequer Pieds, and Blue Pieds. Have some of the Corkett birds here aswell, they are freinds of my brother, and we have scored with them quite a bit, including on the UNC result. Good reliable birds, as long as you are doing your bit then you should get something out of them. Good luck, let us know how you get on won't you?  

[OLDYELLOW]

i cant find any English articles hows your flemish ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[aye ready]

pretty poor oldyellow but will keep yous posted on the results(wiseman)

[aye ready]

how are they doing for u fifer?

[jimmy white]

think jim smith was one of the first to win well with the wildies, way back ,, but the base birds were the beer and orleanski,, bliksem etc,, [beer and orleanski  bought by bertie fletcher] but there have been many who flew these birds well,, charlie wooff [wooff bros and son new ollerton ] have stayed at the top for over 30 years with these birds , his base pigeons were" clive 76"" the 31" these were phenominal racing pigeons , their progeny is still winning well to-day, both, for charlie, and many others  

[eastcoaster]

We have just introduced them from A Cousins in ireland from all Bertie Fletcher`s top birds and are all blues,

but there is Kellens am sure in the pedigree,

[Guest stevie-b]

ian parsons has them check u r year books

[b.massey]

Bertie Fletcher is a well known Wildermeesch man. My father used to have the Ian Parsons too. Very good birds they were. Two brothers won a lot of money and fed cards for him

[jimmy white]

We have just introduced them from A Cousins in ireland from all Bertie Fletcher`s top birds and are all blues,

but there is Kellens am sure in the pedigree,

 

yes your right east coaster,, but going way back on frans van widermeersch pigeons [a school teacher, i beleive] they. like many breeds , are made up of many lines , and like many top breeders/fliers, frans.  selectivly bred these , then produced the champions

[meadowlofts]

to right jimmy i have  frans ,s sales list from 1978 ,coppenolle ,desmet mathys,cattrysse,vav der espt,haelterman,janssen ,the list goes on i believe brian hynes once wrote that it was debatable what really was the base strain of these birds as for ian parsons wildys these are very close to the originals fantastic birds would recomend them to anyone {except round were i live ] bought 2 hens from him in o4 and they have bred  winners every year

 

 

 

[Guest j.bamling]

I would say one of the first to have this family would be W Grinsel Birmingham

Our family of Wildes are from Porter & richardson via Alf Rothwell & Wooff bros stock & win well to 500 miles

[meadowlofts]

quarry lofts are your wildys the young trimard lines of p and r ,s i had a few via anthony carne of st blazey par,,still kicking myself that i  threw them away over the channel mnfc falaise chaseing the big prize  

[Guest]

We have just introduced them from A Cousins in ireland from all Bertie Fletcher`s top birds and are all blues,

but there is Kellens am sure in the pedigree,

 

Some of the best available there mate.

 

 

[Novice]

I believe Walters and Broadhurst also raced these birds and I think Corketts als had some of these bloodlines. W&B originated from Pelsall I think.

I have topped the Fed. from 500 miles with a Porter and Richardson bird on a hard day but that was an exceptional pigeon.  

[THE FIFER]

MY stock of Wildemeersch was got from Porter & Richardson

[Guest]

Lets not forget Mr Mrs Dutton, best waste of money i ever did do!!

[Shortcut Lofts]

There is for sure definatley Kellens in them, certainly the Fletcher Wildermeerch as i was once told this by Bertie himself many years ago.

[Guest j.bamling]

quarry lofts are your wildys the young trimard lines of p and r ,s i had a few via anthony carne of st blazey par,,still kicking myself that i  threw them away over the channel mnfc falaise chaseing the big prize  

 

Yes mate they are !!!