just ask me Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 depends what distance your first race but what i would say is 5 6 tosses enough its loads i often leave it till too 2 weeks before the first race the weather is warmer
weecunny Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Posted February 9, 2009 am puttin 24 yearlins on it 48 miles first race
cemetary Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Am going to give it a try this year, see how i doo, cant be any worse. weecunny, get yer self on it ya dafty. ;D ;D ;D
just ask me Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 well if there a east wind mate with yealings leave them at home but id start 2 weeks before 5 6 tosses as they should be fit flying around the loft
weecunny Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Posted February 9, 2009 they no siitin at hame cos it a east wind they here ti race
Guest Owen Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 I believe that yearlings need plenty of training before the first race. Definately not in an east wind. You would ruin them. Older birds are OK on much less. Some people do not train OBs at all. I think that everything depends on the flying they do at home. I want mine to fly hard in a group and get away from the area. Later they will go off together and split up into pairs and singles. And often they will be all over the place. But it still needs the training to get the fat off them and get them fit. The problem you will have is that there are so many ideas on this subject and everyone knows they are right. You will have to pick out what you want. Make a plan and stick to it.
pjc Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 with yearlings a lot depends on how much education they had as youngbirds! If they were well trained and raced they have experience, if they wern't then you need to treat them almost as youngbirds!
Tony C Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 I would have no qualms putting them into the first race at that distance without them even having a training toss.
Guest WINGS 04 Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 i raced on w/hood and most the time it was about the 3 races that the yearlings no what it was about that is when they would start to show up i would give them 5 to 8 tosses from 12 miles then no more
Pego Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 If the birds are flying well around the loft ie running like youngsters for 45 mins plus, you will only need a couple of short tosses to let them know the system.
jimmy white Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 with yearlings a lot depends on how much education they had as youngbirds! If they were well trained and raced they have experience, if they wern't then you need to treat them almost as youngbirds! i would agree with this posting in fact, wouldnt hesitate to jump yearlings ,[ that had been well trained/raced as yb,s] to over 100 miles in the middle of may,, this is when yearlings come to themselves , not being ruined by training in march /april in bitter cold east winds [by this time they would be well hardened up by flying more than an hour, just ranging] when yearlings hammered in these early months are finished for the season , with the odd exeption
Guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 they no siitin at hame cos it a east wind they here ti race WELL DONE YOUR VERY FIRST MISTAKE :'( :'(
just ask me Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 well its like this white night u can only help those that want to be helped
Guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 well its like this white night u can only help those that want to be helped I HOPE HE LETS US NOW HOW THEY DO THATS IF HES GOT ANY LEFT
just ask me Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 well with a east wind there are a lot of luck involved also with yearlings what nearlly as bad from a short race is the wind behind them as they are 100 mile or more past there loft before they know where they are and then have to fly back in into wind
Guest shadow Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 they no siitin at hame cos it a east wind they here ti race be prepared to loose them then :(
jimmy white Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 be prepared to loose them then :( i agree with this comment 100pc , having proved this myself many years ago to my great dis-advantage
weecunny Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Posted February 11, 2009 a will let u no how a get on with them . flew natural for years and they did ok in east winds was gonni take the hen away when yb are 18 days and let the cocks finnish off the yb mibi start toosin them 2 weeks afore the first race .the birds going widowhood this year have al been raced over 100 miles.
Guest Owen Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 I think the problem with yearlings is that the best of them try to fly their guts out, east wind or not. A following wind is just as bad, because they can get carried away and go far beyond the loft and have to work their way back. They end up trying to do too much and go down. Those that come back days later are rarely much good after. They often become homers, not racers. I agree with the lads. Yearlings should be well trained and flying with real effort at home and then they can be jumped. I have often thought that yearlings would probably be better off if they could be exercised on their own without the older cocks. They would be less likely to pick up bad habits. I would not dream of sending yearlings to fly in a cold east wind in training or racing. I quite like other people, like weecunny, sending theirs because I can take their money off them easier that way. Happy days!!!!
Premier Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 i am trying widowhood with my yearlings for the first time this year, using Dave Allens widowhood year book. I paired up to late so they will not have had enough training by the first race if, i follow it word for word, will it be ok to give them some short 10 milers while they are still breeding as the hens and youngsters will be there when they arrive home. I am hoping to get some training in early as they were only lightly raced as babies, any advice welcome
just ask me Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 i am trying widowhood with my yearlings for the first time this year, using Dave Allens widowhood year book. I paired up to late so they will not have had enough training by the first race if, i follow it word for word, will it be ok to give them some short 10 milers while they are still breeding as the hens and youngsters will be there when they arrive home. I am hoping to get some training in early as they were only lightly raced as babies, any advice welcome this will cause no problams at all done it before a lof of fanicers even do this going by dave allens book u wont go to far wrong even if leave training to late in the eveing u will have cocks sprint back to sit the eggs
Roland Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Wind with east is no good for man or beast Fact! Many just send the odd ole cock or hen to keep them in the averages.... I never send till May, partly so I'm not in any 'Bird Losing' averages (Except Distance of course) and not to lose, knock the edge of th birds in an East wind. Won't even toss them.
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