Hours Of Darkness

[Guest]

to make it easy if i time a bird after the race colses say 10-15 and another at say 4-30 before the race opens again they will both be the same vel. but the bird timed before 12 o-clock is a day bird cant be any other way

 

ian this is the easy way to explain this to the same loft the time in between is dead time

[hotrod]

There was an interesting article in BHW good few years back about hod, from memory its main point was if you got the race closed hours wrong, you could alter the true result of the race. Also claimed few take into account sun sets earlier the further south in UK you are?

 

Thread and approach of channel racing prompted me to check what SHU / SNFC position was. As has been said earlier in thread, different organisations, different times, and SNFC have different hod times for each of their races. Makes sense because sunrise / sunset changes going towards / away from equinox. Interested in earlier statement about 'can't give a bird a time earlier than it achieved'. Time in in SNFC between after close of race at 1100 and before midnight, and you are credited with 1100. Time in before 0430 and you get 0430. But the thread makes claims '1100 and 0430' are the same, I just can't see that now,

1100 must be the time which acknowledges a day bird, and 0430 a second day bird?

correct ian but the time is the same or should i say the velocity would be the same how's that.

 

 

[Guest mytton6]

so as any one found the correct answer to the quistion ????????  in the combine channel races we fly in , as soon as the darkness hours sets in ,if its only one mimute after it ends for the night its classed as a morning after bird

[ribble]

Everyone i have asked who fly under RPRA rules seem to say it is a second day bird?????

And may i add no one on here says any different!!!!!!!!

[Fair Play]

To throw in the old chestnut "mid day liberations for channel races" then they all have a night on the tiles ;)

[Guest]

There was an interesting article in BHW good few years back about hod, from memory its main point was if you got the race closed hours wrong, you could alter the true result of the race. Also claimed few take into account sun sets earlier the further south in UK you are?

 

Thread and approach of channel racing prompted me to check what SHU / SNFC position was. As has been said earlier in thread, different organisations, different times, and SNFC have different hod times for each of their races. Makes sense because sunrise / sunset changes going towards / away from equinox. Interested in earlier statement about 'can't give a bird a time earlier than it achieved'. Time in in SNFC between after close of race at 1100 and before midnight, and you are credited with 1100. Time in before 0430 and you get 0430. But the thread makes claims '1100 and 0430' are the same, I just can't see that now,

1100 must be the time which acknowledges a day bird, and 0430 a second day bird?

 

Not only a difference in sunset times North to South, but also applies East to West, bearing in mind where the Sun rises and sets. 'Actual' hours of darkness and 'Real' hours of darkness will also vary depending on time of year and weather conditions (i.e. full cloud cover and clear skies)

[PIGEON_MAN]

The NFC have differant HOD for each race.