how long to keep strays in

[vanreets]

hi i have been given a some nice looking strays so i phoned them up and they said i can have them so i put them into a diffent loft how long do i keep them in before i let them out i am hoping they will make good feeders and pets  

THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE TRAINED OR RACED JUST LOFT FLOWN

[Guest bigda]

the best way is  to clip them then let them out in the garden, as if you  will have plans for them  next year  some soap there wing  but dont see the point unless you where trying to race them the same year you get them just clip them    if you want them for stock  and let them roam about the garden  for a few weeks  

[ALF]

Why would anybody want to keep strays they have been given????

[vanreets]

Why would anybody want to keep strays they have been given????

 

ONLY FOR FEEDERS MATE

[vanreets]

the best way is  to clip them then let them out in the garden, as if you  will have plans for them  next year  some soap there wing  but dont see the point unless you where trying to race them the same year you get them just clip them    if you want them for stock  and let them roam about the garden  for a few weeks  

 

ARE YOU SAYING IF I JUST LET THEM OUT IN A MONTH THEY WOULD FLY BACK :-/

[Guest grizzler]

with using strays for your feeders...you could be introducing all sorts of problems to your racing stock. besides why do you want to let your feeders out?? baffles me this one.

[Guest IB]

Not the same as if you are trying to break birds by holding them against their free will to go home. If these birds had been free to come and go when they first arrived,  and chose to stay with you, I'd say give them their liberty right away.

 

If on the other hand, you got them in and didn't allow them back out, I'd still say try them now. There is always the danger that they will clear for home at any time. Best to know that now, rather than find out when they are raising youngsters.

 

I would caution against doing anything that restricts birds flying; they have quite enough to contend with in the wild as it is when fully airworthy.

[Guest Davy Fleming]

If you are serious about racing pigeons mate take it from me and probably EVERYONE on this site just dispose of them and I mean dispose of them as they are no good for you. The chances of breeding a good one are very remote. it is possible, but remote. Don't even think about shall I or shall I not just get rid and get some from  someone you know who  is a good steady flyer and then you are going on a quicker route to success. Make up your own mind but listen to what I've said and bet by the end of the night no one comes on here and says I'm wrong because probably most of us have done the same as you and found out later it was wrong.  Even although they are feeders better to forget Good Luck anyway

[vanreets]

Not the same as if you are trying to break birds by holding them against their free will to go home. If these birds had been free to come and go when they first arrived,  and chose to stay with you, I'd say give them their liberty right away.

 

If on the other hand, you got them in and didn't allow them back out, I'd still say try them now. There is always the danger that they will clear for home at any time. Best to know that now, rather than find out when they are raising youngsters.

 

I would caution against doing anything that restricts birds flying; they have quite enough to contend with in the wild as it is when fully airworthy.

 

THANKS VERY MUCH WILL LET THEMOUT IN A FEW DAYS JUST GOT THEM NOT LONG AGO TODAY :-/ THEY ALL SEEM HAPPY ONE OF THEM WON TWO 1ST AND HE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WENT OF CORSE

[vanreets]

If you are serious about racing pigeons mate take it from me and probably EVERYONE on this site just dispose of them and I mean dispose of them as they are no good for you. The chances of breeding a good one are very remote. it is possible, but remote. Don't even think about shall I or shall I not just get rid and get some from  someone you know who  is a good steady flyer and then you are going on a quicker route to success. Make up your own mind but listen to what I've said and bet by the end of the night no one comes on here and says I'm wrong because probably most of us have done the same as you and found out later it was wrong.  Even although they are feeders better to forget Good Luck anyway

 

YEAH I AM JUST MUCKING ABOUT AT THE MO AS WAITING TO GET MY NEW LOFTS THIS JUT GIVES ME SOMETHING TO DO  

I HAVE GOT A LOAD THAT ARE NO GOOD PROB ABOUT TWO DECENT ONES IN THERE WHEN I GET ME LOFTS SORTED I WILL GET RID OF NEARLY ALL MY BIRDS AND JUST KEEP THE GOOD INS

[Guest IB]

 

THANKS VERY MUCH WILL LET THEMOUT IN A FEW DAYS JUST GOT THEM NOT LONG AGO TODAY :-/ THEY ALL SEEM HAPPY ONE OF THEM WON TWO 1ST AND HE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WENT OF CORSE

 

Sorry, not picking you up here. Are you saying these are strays that have come to your loft of their own free will, or have you collected from other lofts that got them in as strays? If they strayed to another loft, the likelihood is that when free they will go back to it.

[vanreets]

 

Sorry, not picking you up here. Are you saying these are strays that have come to your loft of their own free will, or have you collected from other lofts that got them in as strays? If they strayed to another loft, the likelihood is that when free they will go back to it.

 

YEP I CLEANED MY MATES LOFTS OUT THIS MORNING AND SO I PICK THEM OUT A FEW HAVE FLOWN AT HIS I WILL RING HIM TO FIND OUT WOULD IT BE BEST TO LET THEM OUT IN THE  LATE EVENING

[Blue Chequer Pied]

 

THANKS VERY MUCH WILL LET THEMOUT IN A FEW DAYS JUST GOT THEM NOT LONG AGO TODAY :-/ THEY ALL SEEM HAPPY ONE OF THEM WON TWO 1ST AND HE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WENT OF CORSE

 

Every stray is either bred off a winner or breeders of winners or nest mate to a winner etc etc. Honestly it is just what people spout to save themselves having to splash out on carriage to get them back. Get rid off them. If you need birds approach some of the local fanciers they will only be glad to help and get another member in their club.

 

Paul.

[greenlands]

Why would anybody want to keep strays they have been given????

Hi Alf,I reported a young bird from Ardrossan to the fancier,I managed to get the bird along with four others upto NewCumnock.Two weeks later this yb was I believe racing from Cockensie and returned to my loft in West Cumbria.If I had sent one pigeon that distance on it's own what chance would I have of getting it back.I phone the owner agian ,who asked me if I would like to keep the bird.It's a cracking red pied cock ,I will give it a chance, hope it becomes a fed winner.

Lindsay

 

 

[p charlton]

ive put to strays in the past in the stock loft. they were not lost from races but latebreeds. i liked one so much i went to the owner and most of bought over 50 stock birds of him over the years that latebreed put back to the birds were it came from breed the goods one hen won 5 young bird races in a row lol

[ALF]

Hi Alf,I reported a young bird from Ardrossan to the fancier,I managed to get the bird along with four others upto NewCumnock.Two weeks later this yb was I believe racing from Cockensie and returned to my loft in West Cumbria.If I had sent one pigeon that distance on it's own what chance would I have of getting it back.I phone the owner agian ,who asked me if I would like to keep the bird.It's a cracking red pied cock ,I will give it a chance, hope it becomes a fed winner.

Lindsay

 

 

Lindsay mate that's completley different and i agree with you it deserves another chance but vanreets is saying he is keeping strays he has been given :-/

 

Alan

[grizzal]

 

THANKS VERY MUCH WILL LET THEMOUT IN A FEW DAYS JUST GOT THEM NOT LONG AGO TODAY :-/ THEY ALL SEEM HAPPY ONE OF THEM WON TWO 1ST AND HE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WENT OF CORSE

 

Not being funny m8 but if I had a yb that had won 2 x1st i would want it home

[vanreets]

 

Not being funny m8 but if I had a yb that had won 2 x1st i would want it home [/quo : : : : : : : :X :X :X :X :-/ :-/ :-/ :D :D : : : :

[pigeonscout]

If he lets them out and they go into another fancier and the other fancier reports the bird who has to pay to have it picked up?

[greenlands]

Hi Vanreets,you say you got them not long ago,did you get them off another fancier or did they enter your loft as strays.

[Guest bakes]

if i was you van reet i would contact the owners of the birds that said you could have them sort the transfor out other wise if you do manage to break them they will still have the old owners details

[greenlands]

If he lets them out and they go into another fancier and the other fancier reports the bird who has to pay to have it picked up?

 

If they haven't been transfered the true owner picks the bill up.

 

[Guest strapper]

a stray is a lost bird...doesnt mean because its lost its crap..i transffered a stray back a few years...well that topped the welsh north road fed for me over 4000 birds....not all are crap....but a good majority will be!

i used to be known for turning strays into card winners.

but one old fellow said to me once...you have to put something into the birds to get something out...didnt understand then but i do now!

you only get something out of them if your prepared to put the effort into them.

[vanreets]

 

If they haven't been transfered the true owner picks the bill up.

 

:X :X :X :X :X

[greenlands]

Hi Vanreets,you say you got them not long ago,did you get them off another fancier or did they enter your loft as strays.