EQVALAN

[pigeon bird]

Please can anyone tell me where i can get Eqvalan? i have been told this is a very

successfull treatment for feather rot, or is there anything i can use? and where it can be obtained?

[twisted wings]

stupid question how do you know its feather rot,

[Guest TAMMY_1]

GET IT OFF VETS, IT IS USED AS A WORMER FOR HORSES AND SOME USE IT FOR WORMING PIGEONS

[Guest TAMMY_1]

stupid question how do you know its feather rot,

 

feathers are rotten ;D

[andy]

Fantastic product for the doos as well as the horses....

[twisted wings]

the reason i ask is that my racing section of birds have feathers missing front of crop, feed frm metal trough always plenty of corn in it.

now my stock birds have same type of trough but no signs of feather disturbance???

[Guest]

Get furexyl horse wormer instead,same stuff made in same factory just put in different packaging but much cheaper,you can also buy horse wormers at agricultural merchants,feed shops,saddlers etc as many of them are licensed to sell it and are usually cheaper than the vets.

[davebuttle]

what kind of dose would you give if the stuff is for horses?

[Guest]

Get furexyl horse wormer instead,same stuff made in same factory just put in different packaging but much cheaper,you can also buy horse wormers at agricultural merchants,feed shops,saddlers etc as many of them are licensed to sell it and are usually cheaper than the vets.

 

i know you are into horses and that ,and like a good gallop now and a gain what would be the dosage you would recommend for pigeons with this equalan or thits eqivalant ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Bilco]

I wrote about Eqvalan in the early 1980's and have used it for the last 25 years to shift worms.   (For "feather rot" use Ivomec "Pour-On", one drop on to the flesh of the neck every 2 months for a year. The "rot" is in fact the mite Sarcoptes Louvis, burrowing into the feather then cutting it off, the feather stub acts as an incubator, while the embryo mites feed off the birds' serum).

Mix one and a half inches of Eqvalan paste into a pint of HOT water, it won't mix in cold, then add cold water to make up 2 litres in drinker. Leave till all drunk, no other water access.  Repeat a month later. Shifts worms like nobody's business.

[Guest]

 

i know you are into horses and that ,and like a good gallop now and a gain what would be the dosage you would recommend for pigeons with this equalan or thits eqivalant ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Don't know about the pigeons Sammy but I think a good syringe full would certainly sort you out ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pigeon bird]

I wrote about Eqvalan in the early 1980's and have used it for the last 25 years to shift worms.   (For "feather rot" use Ivomec "Pour-On", one drop on to the flesh of the neck every 2 months for a year. The "rot" is in fact the mite Sarcoptes Louvis, burrowing into the feather then cutting it off, the feather stub acts as an incubator, while the embryo mites feed off the birds' serum).

Mix one and a half inches of Eqvalan paste into a pint of HOT water, it won't mix in cold, then add cold water to make up 2 litres in drinker. Leave till all drunk, no other water access.  Repeat a month later. Shifts worms like nobody's business.

 

Thanks Bilco, my birds do not seem to have worms, so i think i will go for the ivomec pour on please can you tell me where to get some

[Guest]

Both eqvalan and ivomec are prescription only - you normally need to visit a vet to get them. Eqvalan contains ivomectin. Visit might also confirm what the birds problem is.

[Roland]

Feather Rot is a fungus. Treatment and preventive is Clorox, in the bath water and sprayed on the infected areas. Let’s race. Bye Billy

 

I have seen this many times. A vet told me to soak the area with TINCTURE OF IODINE that you would put on a cut. This will kill the fungus for sure, I have done it and it worked. Then you have to spray your perches and boxes with MALATHYON to kill the fungus on the wood. Then the problem will be gone. I have done this and it really works.

 

"Feather rot" is caused by a fungus. Copper Sulfide (bluestone) in the bath water clears it up ASAP. Will also take moss off your roof.

 

tincture of iodine (′tiŋk•chər əv ′ī•ə′dīn)

(pharmacology) A medicinal preparation used as an anti-infective containing 20 grams iodine and 24 grams sodium iodide in 1000 milliliters of alcohol. Also known as iodine solution; iodine tincture.

[Roland]

Question Asked … perhaps not the same…

I have several pigeons that have bare patches on the breast which cause feathers to fall out leaveing only stumps left. This happens only in spring/summer time and stops after the moult and trough winter. This is was for several years. Can anybody suggest any medication to solve this problem. I' tried permetrin and ivomec, for years but they do non result.

Answers:

Billy Taylor

This is a fungus, Gal. Treatment and preventive is Clorox, in the bath water and sprayed on the infected areas.

Barry Shuba:

I've heard of using tooth paste and just about everything else...Like Billy T I use Clorox. I mix it 1/2 with water in a spray bottle and this works great. I try really hard to avoid the eyes because it can blind them if the mix is too strong ,also I spray this around inside the loft around the water container and where the droppings fall under the perches etc...I also put a cap full in their bath water. Terrific stuff.

Robbie Grant:

Here in Ontario we call your problem feather rot.

It is caused by a mite. (bug) Remove the feathers from around the effected area. We use a spray called House and Garden Bug killer made by a company called Raid. Try this procedure and your problem should be solved.

Added by Billy Taylor:

Grand wont argue with you, see Galegos first post he had used a bug killer already, ergo fungus.

Dave Trichrome:

I have seen this many times. A vet told me to soak the area with TINCTURE OF IODINE that you would put on a cut. This will kill the fungus for sure, i have done it and it worked. Then you have to spray your perches and boxes with MALATHYON to kill the fungus on the wood. Then the problem will be gone. I have done this and it really works.

Terry Halfpenny:

Won't argue with any of the above, but might suggest checking hoppers, if they are used for feeding. If sharp edged hoppers are used, they can cause the same type of problem as feather rot and is sometimes the reason, that the broken feathers are restricted to breast area. Just a suggestion.

Best Terry

Dave Booth:

I lent few birds out to a young flyer last year. most came back with the same problem. feather rot as it used to be called on the front of the breast. Half cc down the hatch with sheep drench wormer. Problem gone no other birds in loft infected. did this two weeks apart, with in a month or so looked like they never had a problem.

Mike Van Der Gapyt:

 

"Feather rot" is caused by a fungus. Copper Sulfide (bluestone) in the bath water clears it up asap. Will also take moss off your roof.

So a cross reference there!

[pigeongeoff]

the  rot you are describing on the crop of the pigeon is a mite the feathers will not repair/replace until the moult it is not harmful and will not harm the pigeon or affect its ability to fly or race had several pigeons with same problem last year it has returned in 1 this year about 1 week ago the pigeon scores in combine last year at 400 miles with this bald spot on crop and raced yesterday in trying conditions back on its perch last night hope this helps if your still worried seek a vets opinion gl gm

[Guest]

Think there is some confussion here.There are 2 types of feather rot with 2 different treatments,you need to identify which type you have.First type is fungal,symptoms are area totally devoid of feathers [no stubs] treatment is anti fungal wash followed by anti fungal cream [athletes foot ointment from chemist will do].Second type is where you can actually see feather stubs and is caused by a mite rather than a fungus,ideally treatment would involve ivomectin drop on back of the neck monthly until the problem clears

[Bilco]

The Fungal ailment we call "feather rot" leaves the flesh absolutely bare, just hairs left.  The feather stubs betoken the parasite, Sarcoptes Louvis, and the cure is as above. I've treated scores of fanciers' birds for both. The Fungus can be cured by washing the bird with Carbolic soap.  Cheers.

[Guest]

Think calling it feather rot just confuses things.  

 

Chlorocarb confuses things too, there are two of them on the market. Aviform market a pigeon dip called Chlorocarb, which is an insectide, not a fungicide. There's another Chlorocarb for treating grass, which is a fungicide , and it contains the fungicides Chlorothalonil & Carbendazim, both poisonous to some mammals and birds. Malathion is also an insectide, not a fungicide, best known for treatment of red mite. So reckon its not too hard to tell which Chlorocarb the post is talking about for use on the birds, and malathion on the perches - both are insecticides and kill mites.

 

Frank Harper in his video says that you don't find the mite in the broken shaft. After many hours work, he found it in the shafts of whole feathers round the affected area.  Also been reading a wee bit more about this mite: not called syringophilus for nothing, it has piercing mouth parts that look and probably feel like bleedin needles. Inhabits the hollow quill below bird's skin level pierces the quill and sucks serum fluids from feather follicle. Reckon I know now why a bird might jump and kick and pick like crazy at itself.  >  

 

Some question and debate still as to how and when it actually gets into the quill. Quills have been found with a hole drilled in them. but insect has only ever been 'filmed' coming out never actually going in??? Some writers say it might come in when the feather is actually forming, thro the duct carrying the blood vessels before these close off when the feather is fully grown - when it becomes a dead structure.

 

Only 'good' thing about this beastie is that if your birds are unfortunate enough to have it,  they won't have any other type of mite on them, these things attack and eat any other type of mite on the bird. And they are host specific species, for example a pigeon one don't like crows and vice versa.

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

Think there is some confussion here.There are 2 types of feather rot with 2 different treatments,you need to identify which type you have.First type is fungal,symptoms are area totally devoid of feathers [no stubs] treatment is anti fungal wash followed by anti fungal cream [athletes foot ointment from chemist will do].Second type is where you can actually see feather stubs and is caused by a mite rather than a fungus,ideally treatment would involve ivomectin drop on back of the neck monthly until the problem clears

 

Again referencing Frank Harper, both of these complaints are caused by mites.

 

The actions of the depluming mite (two seperate mites acting together) leave the area completely devoid of feathers, no stubs no nothing. The other one leaves broken stubbs.

 

Again referencing Frank Harper, the way to tell the difference is to pull a feather, the quill end should be bare. If it has a waxy plug instead, then its depluming mite.

 

As for fungal attack on the bird's feathers, the uropygial gland (preen gland) secretion contains antimicrobial including antifungal substances. When the bird spreads this over the feathers it protects the feathers against fungal attack.

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Please can anyone tell me where i can get Eqvalan? i have been told this is a very

successfull treatment for feather rot, or is there anything i can use? and where it can be obtained?

 

it can be bought from petsmart    no vet required      but you do have to sign for it tho

[ALF]

GOT IT FAE GALLOWAY & McLEOD IN STONEHOOSE SAME THING PEGGY WANTED YER NAME AND ADDRESS

[harky]

GOT IT FAE GALLOWAY & McLEOD IN STONEHOOSE SAME THING PEGGY WANTED YER NAME AND ADDRESS

 

thats only if you want tick or credit ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

 

thats only if you want tick or credit ;D ;D ;D

 

alf owes everybody anyways harky ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

:P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D