Guest bigjohnwadd Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 what do you need to ask for in chemist in Spain for NYSTATIN, is that the generic name ?and does it come in tablet/liquiid form. Is NYSTATIN the generic name,and is it better to ask for a brand name,like flagyl instead of metronidazole.
REDCHEQHEN Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 Mycostatin oral suspension (Should say Mycostatin suspension oral) Nistatina (is spanish nystan)
Guest Owen Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 Why in heavens name would you want that stuff. It is suposed to be a treatment for yeast infection and it was designed for humans. If you have yeast there are better ways to treat it than with nystatin. Besides, it takes weeks to actually work.
phillips Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 Why in heavens name would you want that stuff. It is suposed to be a treatment for yeast infection and it was designed for humans. If you have yeast there are better ways to treat it than with nystatin. Besides, it takes weeks to actually work. normally when you treat with antibotics its causes yeast infention nystatin is a very good produduct used in the correct manner
Guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Just ask for Flagyl, it is exactly the same over there.
Guest Paulo Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Flagyl is class for canker really seems to give the birds a lift
Guest IB Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 normally when you treat with antibotics its causes yeast infention nystatin is a very good produduct used in the correct manner Folk seem aware that antibiotic use creates an imbalance allowing e.g yeast overgrowth, but the overgrowth is caused because the 'good' bacteria have also been reduced in numbers, and stopped doing their job so well. One of the classic statements about follow-up treatment after an antibiotic is 'treat with a course of multi-vitamins'. Well good bacteria help in digestion - and that includes digestion (and creation) of vitamins, so you might be wasting your time & money. If you need to use an antibiotic, follow that up with probiotic, not vitamins, and certainly not another antibiotic like Nystatin. Think positive 'adding' to restore balance, not deleting. The good bacteria will do all the deleting needed..
Guest Paulo Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Folk seem aware that antibiotic use creates an imbalance allowing e.g yeast overgrowth, but the overgrowth is caused because the 'good' bacteria have also been reduced in numbers, and stopped doing their job so well. One of the classic statements about follow-up treatment after an antibiotic is 'treat with a course of multi-vitamins'. Well good bacteria help in digestion - and that includes digestion (and creation) of vitamins, so you might be wasting your time & money. If you need to use an antibiotic, follow that up with probiotic, not vitamins, and certainly not another antibiotic like Nystatin. Think positive 'adding' to restore balance, not deleting. The good bacteria will do all the deleting needed.. Prolyte from Aviform is an excellent probiotic that I can recommend
fred x Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 I tryed to to see if my cemist would let me have some Nyastatin without a Precription But it was a No go!!. She talk me it was for exturnal use only :-/ I did ask for the Powder.
mickf Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Iv'e heard it all now,nystan takes weeks to work and flagyl is for fungal problems,the mind boggles.
Guest Owen Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 mickf why don't you explain what you are getting at rather than showing off? When I said that Nysatin takes weeks to work I based what I said on the fact that I had a serious yeast problem at the time and it was precribed by a Vet. I monitored what happened next by useing my microscope. So in that one case involving my pigeons I know it took weeks to work. Since that time I have discussed the problem of yeast in pigeons with one of the top Vets in this Country. He confirmed that certain yeast conditions can be very difficult to clear up. And based on what I learned at that time, I would not dream of useing it now because I have a better way of dealing with yeast.
mickf Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 owen,nystatin is used to clear candida albacans in the crop better known as a fungal infection,this can be easily cleared in 3 days max at the dosage rate of 5ml-4 pints.i have been using the above since the early eighties before most people new anything about it.
holmsidelofts Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 mickf why don't you explain what you are getting at rather than showing off? When I said that Nysatin takes weeks to work I based what I said on the fact that I had a serious yeast problem at the time and it was precribed by a Vet. I monitored what happened next by useing my microscope. So in that one case involving my pigeons I know it took weeks to work. Since that time I have discussed the problem of yeast in pigeons with one of the top Vets in this Country. He confirmed that certain yeast conditions can be very difficult to clear up. And based on what I learned at that time, I would not dream of useing it now because I have a better way of dealing with yeast. Hi mickf. What owen is saying is exactly right, and is based upon fact and not hearsay. As owen said there is a quicker way to treat yeast infection, instead of sound off why dont you ask him what it is. Also regarding the flagyl response it amazes me to that so many fanciers dont understand pigeon health. get the health right and you are 80% of the way to success.
holmsidelofts Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 owen,nystatin is used to clear candida albacans in the crop better known as a fungal infection,this can be easily cleared in 3 days max at the dosage rate of 5ml-4 pints.i have been using the above since the early eighties before most people new anything about it. After you have used it have you had them rechecked under the microscope, if not how do you no it has worked, They may look ok but that tells you nothing, What owen has said was true for his yeast infection as it never cleared it up. the microscope doesnt lie, its the same for all illnesses and the reason why a one of droppings test or crop smear is pretty much useless, it only tells you what the bird has now, it doesnt tell you if you treatment has worked, the only way to tell that is to retest them to check that the issue has indeed been cured. I say it again every fancier should own a microscope and learn how to use it.
Guest Davy Fleming Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 mickf , You are absolutely bang on 100% with your comments re Nystatin been using it for a while but never ever use it unless the birds have been tested by my good friend in Lancaster Gary Spavin. Think it is top class
Guest Davy Fleming Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 If someone can tell me how to treat yeast infections a better way then happy to take this on board and give it serious consideration
ch pied Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 mickf why don't you explain what you are getting at rather than showing off? When I said that Nysatin takes weeks to work I based what I said on the fact that I had a serious yeast problem at the time and it was precribed by a Vet. I monitored what happened next by useing my microscope. So in that one case involving my pigeons I know it took weeks to work. Since that time I have discussed the problem of yeast in pigeons with one of the top Vets in this Country. He confirmed that certain yeast conditions can be very difficult to clear up. And based on what I learned at that time, I would not dream of useing it now because I have a better way of dealing with yeast. would you be useing , 1 of these or all 3 on alternative week's . iodine , bi-carb of soda , virkon s , i use them as they are all anti-bacterial with good anit fungal properties
mickf Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 I have been having my birds checked under the microscope since the early eighties,i have a microscope of my own but that was a waste of money never use it,for £3-00 per bird there checked for canker,bacteria,heximiatis why bother with your own microscope,i bet you can't check for heximiatis,unless you have the infrared back ground.
blackdog Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 have one myself but stopped using it as you get paronoid looking for things that aint there, better to just take preventive measures on a 4 week cycle .
greenlands Posted August 9, 2009 Report Posted August 9, 2009 Owen wrote.(Nystatin) " And based on what I learned at that time, I would not dream of useing it now because I have a better way of dealing with yeast. " Would be greatful if you would enlighten me . Lindsay
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