Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Has anyone out there used the Piperazine De-wormer?
Guest strapper Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Has anyone out there used the Piperazine De-wormer? i have once..havent used it since..i think there are better products on the market.
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 was wondering because I have a bottle already, it's for are Dog..............it's the same as the poultry kind just different dose. says on the bottle: Active ingedient per each taple spoon (5ml)..............250mg Piperazine base as Piperazine Citrate. I have to figure out how much to add to a gallon of water.
Guest strapper Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 try this Give 1 ml. (15 drops) Piperazine-17 for each 6 pounds of body weight. Dose the dog and cat individually or give in milk, water or food. Repeat treatment in 30 days or when necessary. hope this helps.
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Not the best for pigeons huh? Did i take care of your Worms in the Homers?
Guest strapper Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Not the best for pigeons huh? Did i take care of your Worms in the Homers? pardon?...what homers?..ive never had homers? also youve never taken care of anything of mine....please explain.
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 I thought you had race pigeons............ my mistake. I'm trying to figure out the right de-wormer dose to give my race pigeons.
Guest strapper Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 I thought you had race pigeons............ my mistake. I'm trying to figure out the right de-wormer dose to give my race pigeons. im with you now..i do have pigeons..
chickadee Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Not the best for pigeons huh? Did it take care of your Worms in the Homers? I think he missed the "t" Strapper and was asking a question and a lot refer to racers as homers like the British Homing World :-/
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 what do you guys think I should giv for a dose??
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 says: 1tsp. for 10lbs of body weight.
Guest strapper Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 I think he missed the "t" Strapper and was asking a question and a lot refer to racers as homers like the British Homing World :-/ it threw me for a moment lol
billt Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Has anyone out there used the Piperazine De-wormer? Used it many times on the dogs but I think it would be too risky trying to get the dosage right for the birds, safer to get one specifically for pigeons
showman Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 what do you guys think I should giv for a dose?? Had a bit of a Google..Piperazine Pigeon Dosage.....says....0.5ml Piperazine to 40ml water.
Guest Owen Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Throw it into the bin. It is an old fashioned chicken wormer and it is only effective for round worms. It was used widely after the last war and has been superceded by much better medicines these days. Moxidectine is generally accepted to be the best these days. But even that does not automatically kill the hair worm on the first dose. It sometimes needs up to three doses to achieve a complete kill.
bewted Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 i use to use this all the time years ago in pigeons as use to get it out of chemist for chidrens dewormer,,,,never had no problem with it and same piperazine citrate,,,but,,,,done away with it now as cant get it,,,,,,and was very cheap too,,,,,,go for it !!! sorry not sure exactly of dose as was long time ago now !
holmsidelofts Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 I always use ascapilla+ by chevita. its a Broad spectrum anthelmintic for pigeons Capsules assure an exact dosing of the active substance Fenbendazole For deworming one capsule per bird is sufficient Effective against all major types of worms Always effective first time. birds tested after use 100% clean. kills all types of worms including tape worm. cost £17 for 100 capsules. I wouldnt use anything else. Theres no guarantee of effectiveness of any product that goes in the water as some birds dont drink it or drink enough of it. with a capsule they get the right dose and they all get it.
demolition man Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 I always use ascapilla+ by chevita. its a Broad spectrum anthelmintic for pigeons Capsules assure an exact dosing of the active substance Fenbendazole For deworming one capsule per bird is sufficient Effective against all major types of worms Always effective first time. birds tested after use 100% clean. kills all types of worms including tape worm. cost £17 for 100 capsules. I wouldnt use anything else. Theres no guarantee of effectiveness of any product that goes in the water as some birds dont drink it or drink enough of it. with a capsule they get the right dose and they all get it. Must agree ascapilla for me can't beat em.
Guest IB Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Piperazine was one of the original wormers for pigeons, I remember it from the early 1960s. Its very basic. It kills nothing, only stuns them, and the normal gut action [peristalsis] pushes them out, along with faeces. Not one that I would recommend, although it obviously does the basic job.
pigeonscout Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Name: Piperazine (many preparations) •Description: Piperazine is an anthelmintic used for ascarids. •Usage: Ascarids. Adverse reactions: None. •Dosage: 300 mg/gallon for 2 days. 16 mg/bird for 2 days. •Comments: Very common narrow spectrum athelmintic. It is not commonly used. Drug only sedates the worm and the bird must pass the worm before the drug is gone or it will remain in the pigeon.
Ulsterman Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Throw it into the bin. It is an old fashioned chicken wormer and it is only effective for round worms. It was used widely after the last war and has been superceded by much better medicines these days. Moxidectine is generally accepted to be the best these days. But even that does not automatically kill the hair worm on the first dose. It sometimes needs up to three doses to achieve a complete kill. do all pigeons need dewormed as a matter of course just to be on the safe side, or do they need it as a specific treatment,.ie if you suspect worms are present?
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 I havn't seen any worms.....................but there is this one Staff van Reet hen that has these long skinny black things in her droppings? I thought worms/tape works are light colored? Not sure if this is natural....... she's the only one with droppings like that & they all get fed the same.
Guest Mader631 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 Photo of my Staff Van Reet hens dropings........... Not sure if this is normal! There are long dark things in the droppings. She's the only one in the loft dropping like this, if any race pro can help me I'd apreciate it, need advice on this before I go to Vet. I don't see eggs or worms in the droppings, just these long dark things............
dwh Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 why not just use a more modern and effective product
dwh Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 why not just use a more modern and effective product ascapilla+ single pigeons and moxidexin 4 flock treatment but thats just my preferance theirs plenty to choose from
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