wet stuff

[PATTY BHOY]

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[LISTER]

i apologize good point cheers bruno light in dark as always  

[just ask me]

could be samoella to   with the green in them hope its not

[bobtail]

try using mycosan-t from chevita this helps them quite a bit somthing to get on with.

[Guest shadow]

have the droppings tested

[pigeonscout]

Cocci is not a bacteria it is a single celled parasites.

 

[terry mccarthy]

have the droppings tested

 

first real answer get droppings tested in mean time i would if me put on broad spectrum antibiotic just in case imo but thats me theres a lot of strepptococci bovis about leave that to late say goodbye to birds

[OLDYELLOW]

Cocci is not a bacteria is is a single celled parasite.

 

its a parasitic bacteria is it not ?

[OLDYELLOW]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocci

[just ask me]

if there droping are dark green id bet its something more

[Guest IB]

 

its a parasitic bacteria is it not ?

 

It's a very simple animal, one of the protozoans [as is trichomonas] a parasite and as you say, normally present in what appears to be fairly large numbers which a good immune system will keep in check.

 

They burrow into the gut wall, damaging it, and its this damage that causes the real problem, bacteria and other stuff escape from the gut into the blood stream, causing disease all through the body.

[pigeonscout]

 

its a parasitic bacteria is it not ?

No cocci canker and worms are parasitics they are not bacteria.

 

[dod grant]

Cocci is not a bacteria it is a single celled parasites.

that is why burning the loft floor with the gas torch is the first step.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

No

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocci

[Tony C]

any ideas about wet droppings

 

How long have they had this and are they losing weight?

[dod grant]

i always dry out the loft floor at this time of year when the weather is cold and damp keeping on top of all the nasty bugs and things like cocci.

[Guest]

sounds like cocci

 

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[Guest IB]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocci

 

You'd need to do the full word 'coccidiosis' to get the correct organism.  

 

Yes 'cocci' [the plural of coccus) are a type of bacteria e.g streptococcus / streptococci which show up as dots under the microscope - just as baccilus (spelling) e.g salmonella, show up as 'rods' forming patterns which can sometimes give you a good idea of what they are.

[pigeonscout]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocci

That link was for Coccus not Coccidiosis here is the link for Coccidiosis.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidia

[OLDYELLOW]

That link was for Coccus not Coccidiosis here is the link for Coccidiosis.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidia

 

Yes 'cocci' the plural of coccus i rest my case coccidiosis is what they cause they poison the blood causing the infection and can cause fatallitys by poisoning the blood

[joe61]

get the droppings tested mate then you know for sure thats the best thing to do

 

oh happy days

[greenlands]

The only way to be sure is to have the droppings tested,if you have to send them away they won't show canker because they will have died.Throat swab is the best idea if you know anyone local to you who has a microscope and will assist.Don't be frightened to put 0.5ml of domestos in a drinker (if you have nonifura mycin),this would clear any bacterial prodlems.For Cocci,boycox can be given any time as it is not absorbed by the gut and does not affect the birds digestive system.As for canker there are several good products on the market,if you use cider vinegar regular this may assist keeping most probs. away because of it's acid content.If you have problems getting the tests done,I find that if your birds are feeding young and are dirty feeders i treat for canker,if the droppings are dark green and geasy cocci.This is only what i have found over the years,but if pos DO NOT treat your birds without tests.My opinion only. Hope it helps.Lindsay C.

PS.What part of the Country do you come from.

[greenlands]

Forgot to mention in last post,don't forget to give the birds some electrolites to compensate for the fluid loss and put minerals etc back into their system.I use two types vita combo and harkervit plus.A good web site to have a look at is.

the australian pigeon com.co.  Just write it into Google.Lindsay C.

 

[Roland]

Well, on Monday I took the birds of their feed of mainly Tic - Beand, and replae with Barly (Again) with Oats, Wheat, with a lttle maize -to keep the cold out.

I also place the Invertamin wormer before them in the drinkers.

Of course their droppings went green, and slimy, and a mite wet with hardly any, if at all white with them.! Was like that for 2 -3 days. Still have the same drinkers before them till they go dry.

Dropping this morning a lot firmer. Roundish again after being splatts. White on top.

Will be firmer tomorrow....  :-/ But hold on a minute, there is too be a drop in the tempreture today, and especially in the night, SO the droppings will be different yet again.

Tempreture, change of feed, loft compartment will all, besides other things, change the shape, form, colour etc. of droppings.

Often have had, and still do, the wet puddle with a little worm like in centre. Could be umpteen reasons / things.... But will act only after a few days if need be. Note the numbers and any more that have the same, INCASE it spreads and NEEDS treating. Never has yet though, but is, to me a pointer THEN of the birds constitution, all important. Some get ill, whilst others don't, some quickly get over whatever, some don't :-/  :-/ Then further action may be called for, becuase they are proned, and are not an overall healthy bird.

JMO thoughts and ways of doing things. Just like us when using the toilet, our droppings change regularly.... never see us dashing of to the chemist and taking this that and the other willy - nilly.... Well most of us.

[jack]

burn  you loft dose not mean burn it to the ground

 

it means get a buner and burn the boxs and floor

 

this will remove all living bugs in the dropings

 

this is for LISTER