peterpau Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 So Rugby, Southam, and Warwick clubs had a grand total of 3 members sending this week as all the rest had some form of sickness. After two weeks racing. All clubs in our fed, keep there own crates, and do not not use another clubs crates. My own birds were off there food and not flying well midweek. Cider vinegar and honey was used in the water and yogurt on the corn. I spoke to another member on saturday and he had almost identical problem, though worse than mine. Surely this "virus?" must be air born? Any ideas.
chrissyboy Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 I think its passed on at the rearing stage by old birds and then appears at time of stress, it should clear up with light feed and origano in water.
peterpau Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Posted August 10, 2008 My birds are ok now. Only had a very mild form, they still looked fine, and weren't holding corn or vomitting.
Guest IB Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 A bit of research published in BHW a couple of years back suggested that YBs who had succumbed to YBS became carriers as OBs and passed on the condition to their offspring. Don't know the process first hand: seems the virus 'bit' of the illness breaks down into particles which are found in the bird's main internal organs (liver, kidneys etc). Don't know how these are passed from parent (feeding? egg?) but the particles reconstitute in the youngster as live virus. Would need to know what you mean by 'airborne' before I could comment. We've already seen in Bird Flu that it just can't happen, UV light and drying out kills it; bird in close proximity to a bird shedding virus thro droppings in basket seems much more likely.
thomasd52 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 This is my first time racing pigeon im have a problem its not young bird sickness its my yb getting slow my first race was 6 mins behind then sec race was half an hour behind when im tossing them thier slowing down in time i dont know whats going i had a racing man round to see them today he said that the health is fine but he said that the pigeon have alot of air it feels like they have water but its not he said this could be why thier slow thier have only been going like this for a few week does any one know what this could be it would be a great help.
Guest dogeon Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 This is my first time racing pigeon im have a problem its not young bird sickness its my yb getting slow my first race was 6 mins behind then sec race was half an hour behind when im tossing them thier slowing down in time i dont know whats going i had a racing man round to see them today he said that the health is fine but he said that the pigeon have alot of air it feels like they have water but its not he said this could be why thier slow thier have only been going like this for a few week does any one know what this could be it would be a great help. it could be a sign they are coming down with something, my young birds were 5th club 1st race, 1st the following week and only seconds off the fed sheet as 1 member clocked 12 in 2 mins and then bottom of the club this week and found out mine have got wet canker, just keep an eye on them
thomasd52 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 This is my first time racing pigeon im have a problem its not young bird sickness its my yb getting slow my first race was 6 mins behind then sec race was half an hour behind when im tossing them thier slowing down in time i dont know whats going i had a racing man round to see them today he said that the health is fine but he said that the pigeon have alot of air it feels like they have water but its not he said this could be why thier slow thier have only been going like this for a few week does any one know what this could be it would be a great help.
thomasd52 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 This is my first time racing pigeon im have a problem its not young bird sickness its my yb getting slow my first race was 6 mins behind then sec race was half an hour behind when im tossing them thier slowing down in time i dont know whats going i had a racing man round to see them today he said that the health is fine but he said that the pigeon have alot of air it feels like they have water but its not he said this could be why thier slow thier have only been going like this for a few week does any one know what this could be it would be a great help.
Guest shadow Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 why keep repeating the same message wait for somebody to reply
ALF Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 why keep repeating the same message wait for somebody to reply Ever thought he might not know he's repeating his posts with him being quite new around here?
Guest dogeon Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 why keep repeating the same message wait for somebody to reply he did 10 mins i don't think he knows , it looks like hes just pressing quote
REDCHEQHEN Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 if you press the 'back button' on your computer - it repeats the message
Guest dogeon Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 it also repeats if you press refresh just after your post if you stay on it
Taylorsloft Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 fennel tea from supermarkets should clear there cropes
Guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 its wet canker use rondisotol think thats how you speel it will clear up in 2/3 days
Guest dogeon Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 he didn't mention wet droppings but your right ive treated mine with ronidazole and doxy as some of them had a bit of resp thats comes with wet canker
richyhicks Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 Hi new to your site but i know that e-coli is ripe at the moment vita pro combo mixed with coliprim is excellent the stress of the first few races after all training etc brings it on opening the doors for wet canker etc
irish_mat Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 yes i was refreshing the page thats why it was repeating the message cheers for your advice
thomasd52 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 Hi my yb birds dont have watery dropping they are perfect but sill have the air like they have on sunday i removed the water for 24 hours then give them milk to clean them out then removed the drinker again for a few hours then give them water honey and glocose so i have clean them out they sill have that bit of air in them like they have water nobody i know knows what it is so im keeping my eye on them anyone know what it is please let me know i keep it Natural cider viger, garlic and iodine in the water i have been doing this and i had no problems the problems i think is when the racing has started.
Guest IB Posted August 16, 2008 Report Posted August 16, 2008 Sorry, I thought I posted a reply earlier? It may be that with the crop being empty, you are feeling a partially inflated air sac? There are air sacs here. Most noticeable when the bird is crowing.
mushroom Posted August 19, 2008 Report Posted August 19, 2008 For the past three years I have given my breeding pigeons a 7 DAY course of NYFURAMYCIN from rhonfried 2 weeks before pairing up. I then give my YBs a further 7 day course 2 weeks before I start to train. For the 7 days following the treatment. Day 1 on the corn is garlic oil and powdered sheep colostrum one flat teaspoon per kg of corn which is available at most farming outlets for around £3 per sachet. From Day 2 and 3 they get garlic oil and brewers yeast. For the remaining days just good corn. The garlic oil I make myself by halving 2 cloves and dropping them into a bottle of rapeseed oil which costs about 30p at the supermarket.I have not had any sickness in my loft since I have done this . However, I do not race my youngsters I just train them so I cannot tell you how they may be affected during contact in the race basket as yearlings they can certainly hold their own with the competition.
ch pied Posted August 19, 2008 Report Posted August 19, 2008 For the past three years I have given my breeding pigeons a 7 DAY course of NYFURAMYCIN from rhonfried 2 weeks before pairing up. I then give my YBs a further 7 day course 2 weeks before I start to train. For the 7 days following the treatment. Day 1 on the corn is garlic oil and powdered sheep colostrum one flat teaspoon per kg of corn which is available at most farming outlets for around £3 per sachet. From Day 2 and 3 they get garlic oil and brewers yeast. For the remaining days just good corn. The garlic oil I make myself by halving 2 cloves and dropping them into a bottle of rapeseed oil which costs about 30p at the supermarket.I have not had any sickness in my loft since I have done this . However, I do not race my youngsters I just train them so I cannot tell you how they may be affected during contact in the race basket as yearlings they can certainly hold their own with the competition.many roads lead to rome
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