blood boils

[big blue bar]

can any body help noticed this year i have had 4 bird develop boil like lumps on parts of there bodys they are filled with blood have tied string round them and they fall of but can anybody tell me what is the cause

[BLACK W F]

they used to say long ago it was due to rich feeding  dont know if its true never been bothered with them

[Guest frank dooman]

protien lump ive got it with 2 birds at the moment

[Guest]

i think its too much protien in thier feed

[marmite]

protein lumps cauaed by feedin to much protein in mix

[Guest IB]

Last thread on it:-

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1258883654/

 

[just ask me]

im feeding deputive and have them  :-/

[big blue bar]

ok so nothing to worry about

[just ask me]

no most of the time they fall off or i use fishing line  

[DOVEScot]

I was told from a vet that it was a birds inability to cope with protein, hence the name protein lump, it happens in most bird species and is similar to fatty lumps that appear in humans :-/

[DOVEScot]

ok so nothing to worry about

 

This bird made a full recovery although I think it depends on what damage the swelling of the lump does, we have over 200 birds all getting fed the same mix and one in four year developed a lump so how can it be feeding too much protein or surely all would get it or at least than just one :-/ :-/ :-/

[jimmy white]

no most of the time they fall off or i use fishing line  

 

yes i have found this also,, to me these" protein lumps" have always been a bit of a mystery, most if not all will say too much protein,, the bit i wonder about,, is , all the birds fed the same, why do the only odd one or two have these??

 

i have had these b4 , easy enough" cured" and found the pigeon to have no ill effects after   having these, and race well .

[just ask me]

 

yes i have found this also,, to me these" protein lumps" have always been a bit of a mystery, most if not all will say too much protein,, the bit i wonder about,, is , all the birds fed the same, why do the only odd one or two have these??

 

i have had these b4 , easy enough" cured" and found the pigeon to have no ill effects after   having these, and race well .

 

i just think its another one of these things that not meant to be answered  as i say mine are on depurative and i have 2 with them from my experience noting to worry about and the bird will show no signs he ever had it

[big blue bar]

i do recall one bird having this but that was 15 years ago have nt had it since and had 4 this back end of the year must be the food

[blackdog]

 

 

Some of my pigeons have like black lumps. Some have it on their necks and some on their backs. An other fancier told me it was from too much protein. Could it be true or what do you recommend? Thank you Bluehen

question by: robert dowdall

answer by: Dr Ruben Lanckriet

 

Dear Sir,

 

The black lumps are caused by a pox virus. This virus is not the pigeon pox virus itself but it resembles it. Mostly the lumps don't cause much problems. After a couple of weeks they just dry out and fall off. If they are traumatised they can cause some severe bleeding though. In such cases you can put a ligature around the lump. It will dry out and fall off. The virus itself doesn't cause other problems.

[Novice]

 

Some of my pigeons have like black lumps. Some have it on their necks and some on their backs. An other fancier told me it was from too much protein. Could it be true or what do you recommend? Thank you Bluehen

question by: robert dowdall

answer by: Dr Ruben Lanckriet

 

Dear Sir,

 

The black lumps are caused by a pox virus. This virus is not the pigeon pox virus itself but it resembles it. Mostly the lumps don't cause much problems. After a couple of weeks they just dry out and fall off. If they are traumatised they can cause some severe bleeding though. In such cases you can put a ligature around the lump. It will dry out and fall off. The virus itself doesn't cause other problems.

 

Absolutely correct

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

Some of my pigeons have like black lumps. Some have it on their necks and some on their backs. An other fancier told me it was from too much protein. Could it be true or what do you recommend? Thank you Bluehen

question by: robert dowdall

answer by: Dr Ruben Lanckriet

 

Dear Sir,

 

The black lumps are caused by a pox virus. This virus is not the pigeon pox virus itself but it resembles it. Mostly the lumps don't cause much problems. After a couple of weeks they just dry out and fall off. If they are traumatised they can cause some severe bleeding though. In such cases you can put a ligature around the lump. It will dry out and fall off. The virus itself doesn't cause other problems.

 

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[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

do you think its passed on ? as ive had it a few times in last few years but only to one strain of birds and not my others infact the ones who have had it have all been off one cock

[kirky]

do you think its passed on ? as ive had it a few times in last few years but only to one strain of birds and not my others infact the ones who have had it have all been off one cock

yes i think its passed on, had a pair of stock years ago all the ybs off this pair got them no others thay still flew well but in the end i got rid,

 

 

[dwh]

i was once told by a very knowlegable and well known flyer from our area that it was iron defiency.always seems to happen during or after moult and this was due to the stresses of moul.

wat you guys think?

[Guest puresoontjen]

its no brobs to get rid of them it the disapointment haveing to deal with it. some fly well after its been sorted it depends were lump  is on the body is fine. on the wing  :-/ its give them brobs i only say this ive had 2 birds and good ones to, i lost them in the 4 race of the old birds both of them gone. the protien lumps had gone by the time it was the first race. one of them sould of came back but to lose the 2 birds in one race.  :-/ this is why ive put it down to the protien lumps on the wing. yes i might be wrong it could of been some thing else but them 2 birds in the same race  it makes you think :-/

[Guest IB]

Hard to say if 'it' can be passed on as nobody really knows what 'it' is. Interesting one about the virus, but again doesn't explain why just the odd bird? Would expect a virus or 'feed problem' to go through whole or most of the loft. Its just an odd bird, and its neither up nor down going through it, even when it bursts. Mystery.

[DOVEScot]

Hard to say if 'it' can be passed on as nobody really knows what 'it' is. Interesting one about the virus, but again doesn't explain why just the odd bird? Would expect a virus or 'feed problem' to go through whole or most of the loft. Its just an odd bird, and its neither up nor down going through it, even when it bursts. Mystery.

 

Yet ours was just a YB and never had one agaian, I think I will send the pic in to ask the avian vet on the Cage and Aviery magazine :-/

[Guest bigbok]

i seen this in a friends loft a few years back whos water was always a different colour with multis etc i always thought it was a to rich a diet and not enough work to burn it off excess protein would also indicate the same thing

[Guest BIRD_MAN_JOHN]

its no brobs to get rid of them it the disapointment haveing to deal with it. some fly well after its been sorted it depends were lump  is on the body is fine. on the wing  :-/ its give them brobs i only say this ive had 2 birds and good ones to, i lost them in the 4 race of the old birds both of them gone. the protien lumps had gone by the time it was the first race. one of them sould of came back but to lose the 2 birds in one race.  :-/ this is why ive put it down to the protien lumps on the wing. yes i might be wrong it could of been some thing else but them 2 birds in the same race  it makes you think :-/

 

ive had this problems befor on the wings but they always come home. :-/it dont effect them in any way