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thrico,,,,bi-carb,,,,or,,,, iodine,,,,for sam& ella black bin liner

i never said anti-bio's , all natural med's , except the wormer , as iam to lazy to boil up a bucket of cabbage root's , like the old man did for 60+year's

first used a treatment for cocci & canker 1982 after we brought in bird's from holland that had a pharmacutial crutch under them,,,before that only ever treated for worms . now in the med cupboard i have stuff that will kill dead thing's

PIGEON LORE , a book written by NEILSON HUTTON sometime late 70's . 1 chapter was devoted to deep litter ,( ie ) powdered dropping's

to do it wright , all med's should be given as perscribed by their ATOMIC & MOLECULAR WEIGHT , that way no over or under dose , 1gm of tylan tarter is a lot different to 1gm of tylan that is padded out with dextrose or another med .

good post there NEWBIE,,,lol

even ( SPECTRADOX ) its another old 1, like the rest that's mentioned

lizzy has a foot in both camp's , we can't force her to remove the royal status of the RSPB . but we can sure as hell remove her patronage from any union in the uk . media would have a field day , pigeon fancier's ous't lizzy lol

correct ,,,,,,,but its still well oiled machine that's been running for yonk's . when these people start the machine , it will get dirty , under handed & straight into the trenche's .

twicher , twicher

their is more being done here than on the mainland , you can be assured . i havent had a percy nest within 5mls , for some 6ys , they just won't settle in my area , can you say the same

yes the enemy are watching all this , and i would think they are having a good chuckle , if they find any hole's in this or any other campaign , they will drive a coach & horse's through it . you have forwarned them and even helped them by dividing your force , that will be the down fall of this campaign . IN THEIR EYE'S , your just a bunch of crazy pigeon fancier's that hate BOP . when thier PR boy's go into full swing they will be ruthless with no quarter given . as we know they are very good at operating in a clandistine manner , should we not adopt the same approche , then spring it on them. AN AIR TIGHT CAMPAIGN

this post was from our very own ROLAND , on this site, & ALL credit belong's to him . it was first posted on another forum that has now gone , but not forgotten . it was a fun place to be & sometime's it was like a gladiators arena . then roland would post a cracker, and thing's would be brought back into perspetive .

while cleaning out the archive's on my system , i found this post from 2003 on another forum , all credit go's to roly / roland HOW TRUE IS THIS!!!! According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 50's, 60's, and 70's probably shouldn't have survived, Why?Because our baby cots were covered with brightly coloured lead-based paint which was promptly chewed and licked. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, or latches on doors or cabinets and it was fine to play with pans. When we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets, just flip flops and fluorescent clackers' on our wheels. ..if afforded. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the passenger seat was a treat. We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle - funny tasted the same. We ate dripping sandwiches, bread and butter pudding and drank fizzy pop with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing. We shared one drink with four friends, from one bottle or can and no one actually died from this. We would spend hours building go-carts out of scraps and then went top speed down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into stinging nettles a few times, we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before it got dark. No one was able to reach us all day and no one minded. We did not have Playstations or X-Boxes, no video games at all. No 99 channels on TV, no videotape movies, no surround sound, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet chat rooms. We had friends - we went outside and found them. We played elastics and street rounders, and sometimes that ball really hurt. We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones and teeth, and there were no lawsuits. They were accidents. We learnt not to do the same thing again. We had fights, punched each other hard and got black and blue - we earned to get over it. We walked to friend's homes. We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate live stuff, and although we were told it would happen, we did not have very many eyes out, nor did the live stuff live inside us forever. We rode bikes in packs of 7 and wore our coats by only the hood. Our actions were our own. Consequences were expected. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law. Imagine that! This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all. And you're one of them. Congratulations! Pass this on to others who have had the luck to grow up as real kids, before lawyers and government regulated our lives, for our own good. If you aren't old enough, thought you might like to read about us. And that is just the starters....

( CONTROL ) say's it all , also agree with entire post .

frontline , can be doggy with some breed's of dog's , can even kill

dont know about 15 or 16 mites , but i do know ivomectin sort's the mite in question , i have used most of the aforementioned treatment's over the year's , sulpher / parafin / copper sulphate / durametex and found them all a hit & miss job , they can all kill it off but you need to get it in the burrow where the mite live's , since i started useing the sheep drench my bird's have not suffered from it , this works for me

frontline is a deritive of ivomectin

i use noramectin sheep drench , it is water based , in the bath at the rate of 3ml-to the gallon , in the drinker 5ml-2ltr's for 2 day's ,it can be got at any good farm shop , about £23 a ltr. it will clear out all worm's , bar tape , used in the bath , will clear all lice & mite's , even scaley leg mite , bull head's , and tick's , quill mite's ,

i have no axe to grind with anyone on this . 1 loft races , in the true sence , would mean that they are in . 1 loft . 1 management system . 1 loft bird's convoyed & lib on their own . if convoyed with a fed , i do not think it can be called a 1 loft race in the true sence

john miller,,,07899/895100

lisburn & dist hps,,,,,sec , m gbison,,02890/604346

correct , i forgot to add , ABUSE of ANTI-BIO'S is another evil we have to contend with in the struggle

yes the link show's that the mentioned anti -bio's have been removed from the us market as are a few other vetininary med's that we can obtain in europe , the link also hi-lite's copper sulphate & murcuric acid that are of great benifit in the control of thrico , when it has been eleimitinated as is bi-carbinat of soda & iodine . there are some 30-40 strain's of thrico on the go and are becoming more restsitant to the med's now in use , the failure can be laid at the door of fancier's in this respect . of having a good or bad result ( ie ) not changing the type of anti-bio between treatment's , under doseing , not de-clorinating the water if useing med's in powder form . my own veiw , if you have to treat ,,,,,,,treat long and treat hard

canker, is a term used for many ailment's down the year's , and if realistic thrush can be termed as a canker of sort's , but we in the pigeon world have taken the word canker to mean only 1 thing ( THRICOMONIASIS )