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ok found it and its from none other than jack barkel finding form.. http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/jackbarkel/articles/jackarticle4.htm

Well people i have also read about pulling flights to bring on form,not that i would do it but i read it somewhere.

I think it best we PM you or address as i dont want dirty socks sent to me in the post. Check your mail

This is a smashing looking hen.The sire and the dam to this hen are from the top flyer in my club BROWN BROS & MCKINNIE from there top lines,you can see there results on my website in results page.. http://www.oddfellowspigeons.co.uk/results.html Blue white flight hen £25 I will be keeping the nestmate cock to this hen for stock myself..

Here i have a 2001 busschaert cock from the previous owners of my loft,MULLEN BROS & SON of Oddfellows h.s.This cock is a half brother to a hen that topped the fed twice for MULLEN BROS & SON and a daughter of the hen topped the fed also.. Dark cock only £20 Great looking cock only sold for space.I will be keeping the nestmate hen to this cock for stock myself.

yes westy no probs mate,first come first served.The pied hen is not settled to me so you could probs settle her if you realy wanted,a bit washing up liquid or clip her down for a year would do it.

I also have some smashing looking birds free to good homes on my site. chq cock pied hen check my site for info

The thing is i had three youngbirds from the same nest and the others were fine so it cant be in the family.Jimmy i made sure there was no light getting in for the birds to sit in,loft wasnt total darkness just so they could see slightly.

Very intresting thanks for that bruno,yes i was told fructose goes straight to the system for a quick pick me up.Does anyone give glucose/fructose before the birds going away to race,would it be any good for the birds.

Just done a quick search Fructose Also known as “fruit sugar”, fructose is roughly 50% sweeter than ordinary sugar, tastes wonderful, and does not raise blood sugar levels like table sugar. When taken in moderation, fructose can be taken by diabetics after first consulting with their physician. How do I substitute Fructose for table sugar in recipes? Fructose is derived from corn and is approximately 1.8 times sweeter than regular table sugar. Unfortunately we cannot supply an exact equivalency for substituting Fructose for table sugar. Experimentation will yield the best results, keeping in mind how much sweeter Fructose is. In general, if a recipe calls for 1 cup of sugar, a little over a 1/2 of a cup should be close. Sweeten to taste is the best advice! Fructose also provides the additional benefit of supplying fewer calories than table sugar.

After following this article and and searching a few other sites i think all my birds will get after a race next year is glucose or hunny and fresh water with a light feed after they have rested for a while..Has anyone heard of fructose (i think thats how its spelt)i was told was another kind of glucose..

Has anyone ever had a bird put on darkness but darkness never worked on that bird.I had a bird that was coming very well for me this year early on in the youngbird season,then he was last everyweek couldnt suss it until i picked him up and he only had three flights to go,the rest of the darkness team hadnt started. checked my natural youngbirds and he was on the same flights as them.

Twilight i was told,not darkened off totaly.Rose as for enjoying a bath ect i think the birds still enjoy a bath and a lay about in the sun on a weekend after the race,they are just locked away during the week when the birds are expected to train.The partnership are top flyers in my club.I once poped my head in there loft as the loft was closed down all birds were sitting 100% relaxed on there perches it even felt relaxing to me.

Shadow i have the drops from harkers also and found them no use at all.I done my birds with the drops and checked them a few days later and the birds still had lice.I done as it said 2 drops between the shoulders no good.

I may be a bit behind here but did we lose the old forum due to pigeon politics as there was lots of excellent info on there that has now been lost.

Thanks tony,

After having birds out for training once the birds are fed & watered darken the loft slightly so birds get 100% rest.I know a very good flyer in my club and after he has his birds out they are closed in and darkened off and left alone to relax.same as widowhood cocks some have curtains up.just wondered if anyone does this

hi speckled at this moment i have about 20 pair of stock but this year most will go as i want to bring my own in.I was given this and that to try from everywhere when i first started and need to have a good clear out now.The old cock is paired to another cock in the stock loft (very strange). Thanks again for the kind comments

Get yourself down the gym for a good work out,theres nothing better than a nice warm bath when you get home to relax those worked musles

I bought the book feed to win and found it very intresting with all the grain content etc in there defo worth a read.

Joe are they genuine pictures with the rainbow mate or did you add it to the pics. No rain in sight thats all excellent pics by the way..

This bird was a gift from Brown bros & mckinnie from his top lines. I will try this bird out next year

The 12 year old cock.This bird bred a hen to top the fedration twice,a daughter to this cock also bred 2 fed winners.he is now infertile.he is as old as the cobwebs around him 12 years old

This mealy cock was giving to me from my brother gary as a gift,from this bird in 2003 i took 2 youngbirds,One was 3rd from mansfeild the other third from lillers. Mealy & white cock