obvious reason staring you in the face lads, stop making it complicated... controllers not doing there homework, when you got libs going north and south in same areas liberating at same times, huge recipe for disaster, our feds had heavy losses at witton castle & ripon with early libs of 7.00am, nothing working back coz they are too far south... yesterday we were at wakefield with a later lib of 11.00am and most lofts have 100% returns, proof in pudding, but nothing being done! will happen again next year, then the next until we have no fanciers left???