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This should be sent by email by all the governing bodies to every education department and school, it would cost nothing and the potential could be infinate :-/ If anyone showed an interest then the governing bodies could take it on board to promote the sport by contacting local fanciers to take part in a scheme or form a road show run by the the governing bodies themselves :-/

Over 3000 supposed members and very little responce to this, this could be a great chance to air our sensible views on a public domain regarding hawks and falcons and the need for eagle owls to balance the food chain and the RSPB's over protection of them and the devistation to the song birds, public are a lot more sympathetic to them than pigeons, sad but true :-/ http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145809&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145792&contentPK=21055614&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch#continueNews

Get a cheap cage and put some food in it, attach a pull string on the door, easiest way to catch them

Pigeon governing bodies should provide a 24/7 watch on any nest sites, run by volunteers or paid staff, this would have to be a sporsored group or sub section, funds levied on members and donations from the public PR would have to be to restore a natural inhabitant of the uk and not as a hawk/fakon killer, play the RSPB at their own game, do you think they would get all the support they do if they advertised the sparrow hawk as a song bird killer :-/ Raise legal action against anyone that even threatens a nest site or owl TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PUBLICITY, QUESTION IT Feathers were ruffled in Bristol yesterday when a killer owl was spotted. ALL OWLS ARE KILLERS, SAME AS HAWKS, FALCONS, CROWS, MAGPIES, SEAGULS, AND OSPREYS Perched on a balcony in rainy Clifton, the eagle owl hardly looked threatening as it surveyed the city. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT The bird was spotted at 10am yesterday morning by eagle-eyed Bristol writer Richard Hope-Hawkins. It was later spotted sitting on the railings in Victoria Square, Clifton, Bristol. Mr Hope-Hawkins said: "Although rather wet, the owl looked alert and contented and was a wonderful surprise to anyone passing by." GET THE PUBLIC TO SEE HOW WONDERFUL THEY ARE The eagle owl can grow to 3ft tall. Eagle owls are sometimes known as killer owls. They can attack dogs and even deer. YES SMALL DOGS AND DEER, SO DOES GOLDEN EAGLES YET THEY ARE WELCOME AND PROTECTED A public right of way through a woodland in Cornwall recently had to be closed when an eagle owl began attacking dogs being walked in the area. There is also concern that the owls can cut native bird populations. YES TO MANAGABLE NUMBERS NOT DECIMATE THEM AS THE HAWKS ARE DOING TO SONG BIRDS Cris Sperring of the Hawk and Owl Trust said that the owl had been spotted in Bristol before and would be difficult to catch. CONTACT THIS GUY AND ASK HIS ADVICE, FIND OUT IF HE IS FOR OR AGAINST THEM

Done the same thing to one of our pigeons when I tried to stop it getting out, flew fine it just did not glide as good as the others :-/

What kind of pigeons do you have mearnsray, If you want some good pics of birds I can send you some Good luck

Be careful you may cause frostbite, ice is better to stop any swelling as it shrinks the blood vessels, too late for that, best to go for warm and cold alternatively as this gets the blood vessels openning and closing allowing the circulation to improve, some swelling on a damaged joint is there to protect it from further damage, bruising will go away through time, be careful you only want to dip it in warm/cold as any manipulation can cause further damage :-/

Did you get sorted yet, may be able to sort some out for you this w/e, I will be in Edinburgh at the w/e if the weather is good

It is amazing the healing powers a pigeon has, I hope it recovers fine

Wise words from Friar F#ck ;D ;D ;D

Well dinnae tell anyone else or we will all be monks, what would be the fun in that :)

You must travel the earth and tell us how many blades of grass there are and the exact number of sand pebbles. When you find these numbers, you will become a monk. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

In the pics it looks greenish and infected :-/

Did you time it over the 65 miles Sounds more like an unrung racer if it is loft wise and tame enough to let you handle it, good thing thing about ferals is the natural instinct they have, bad thing is the possible problems it may have. I honestly think some birds are kept too healthy and have very weak imune systems, they cope fine in or around our own lofts but the minute you introduce them to a new enviroment they cause or create a load of problems. The doves that we keep in the cotes, I consider them in a stage between feral and loft, survival of the fittest, open to all the elements all year round while also fed and treated like the ones in our lofts. We never have any problems with them, good clean healthy stock and when I sell the young with my cotes, never any problems in there new homes or enviroments The only problems we have from time to time are the ones that are in the lofts and cost us money and bring problems in with them:'( I think any bird whether a feral or a rung racer should be caught and isolated just in case, even birds we have bought in the past from people we know are still quaranteened :-/

A man is driving down the road and breaks down near a monastery. He goes to the monastery, knocks on the door, and says, My car broke down. Do you think I could stay the night? The monks graciously accept him, feed him dinner, and even fix his car. As the man tries to fall asleep, he hears a strange sound; a sound like no other that he has ever heard. The next morning, he asks the monks what the sound was, but they say, We can't tell you. You're not a monk. The man is disappointed but thanks them anyway and goes about his merry way. Some years later, the same man breaks down in front of the same monastery. The monks again accept him, feed him, and even fix his car. That night, he hears the same strange mesmerizing sound that he had heard years earlier. The next morning, he asks what the sound was, but the monks reply, We can't tell you. You're not a monk. The man says, All right, all right. I'm dying to know. If the only way I can find out what that sound was, is to become a monk, how do I become a monk? The monks reply, you must travel the earth and tell us how many blades of grass there are and the exact number of sand pebbles. When you find these numbers, you will become a monk. The man sets about his task. Some forty-five years later, he returns and knocks on the door of the monastery. He says, I have travelled the earth and devoted my life to the task demanded and have found what you had asked for. There are 371,145,236,284,232 blades of grass and 231,281,219,999,129,382 sand pebbles on the earth. The monks reply, 'Congratulations, you are correct and now you are a monk'. We shall now show you the way tothe sound. The monks lead the man to a wooden door, where the head monk says, the sound is behind that door The man reaches for the knob, but the door is locked. He asks, 'May I have the key'? The monks give him the key, and he opens the door. Behind the wooden door is another door made of stone. The man requeststhe key to the stone door. The monks give him the key, and he opens it, only to find a door made of ruby. He demands another key from the monks, who provide it. Behind that door is another door, this one made of sapphire. And so itwent until the man had gone through doors of emerald,... ...silver, topaz, and amethyst. Finally, the monks say, 'This is the key to the last door'. The man is relieved to no end. He unlocks the door, turns the knob, and behind that door he is astonished to find the source of that strange sound. It is truly an amazing and unbelievable sight. . . . But I can't tell you what it is because you're not a monk. DON'T SWEAR AT ME; I'M STILL HUNTING FOR THE IDIOT WHO SENT THIS TO ME!

This is what you have, a baby wood pigeon http://www.arkive.org/species/ARK/birds/Columba_palumbus/ARK008667.html?offset=0px

I use shreaded news paper, I have wicker baskets as well but they are so hard to keep clean, I just pressure wash the crates with an anti bacterial solution through the mix every now and then

The rings could have UK then ScU 00000, EnU 0000 WeU 0000 or IrU 0000 It is possible, I was part of the restructuring of the Judo governing bodies when we became part of Sport Scotland (formally the sports council), we changed from the Scottish Judo Federation to Judo Scotland :-/

I am sure your chairde Ganster could get you one free ;D ;D ;D

Brilliant idea, sports councils will only recognise one representing body, they will not deal with two or more Personally would like to see it happen but the old spitting oot the dummy always happens :-/ Me and Billy are starting a partnership and not impressed by any of the bodies we have a choice to join, being Scottish at heart foremost I would prefer to join the Scottish Homing Union and be part of a UK Homing Union

Crap, we break the rules every day on the site, do you have copyright on your avatar Alf :-/

Very grey are is copyright, very easy to get past it and very hard to prove it is yours, Even big companies like NIKE have huge problems You are posting on an open forum and unless you state material posted is copyrighted then you will have a problem seeking kegal action, I know this from having worked on designs in the past Do you have copyright on your avatar Gangster :-/ :-/ :-/ if we start being picky then there could be huge problems for us or the site :-/

About a week old not much more by the looks of it, the fact that it is growing indicates it is feeding Amount; it will take about half an egg cup of soaked food to fill its crop

It has to be below 1mb or download a resize programme if you don't have one, I use photobucket http://photobucket.com/ Get some pigeon food and soak the peas, syringe it into a balloon and cut a small cross in it, allow the yb to dip it's beak into it, you can syringe the food into the bird but it may choke, better with the balloon as it is more natural to the way a pigeon feeds

I wish I had the room, I seen the ones that polly got and they were crackers, sadly she lost them all due to illness :-/