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valid point but why not pair bro x sis specifically 4 anew introduction into the loft giving you the winnig genes + the vitality of new blood surly an ideal situation?

having read yor post owen would you breed broxsis 4 stock to use as a cross or would you breed to race and would you 2 or as many as you could

b4 u file anything check with rpra as this may b classed as tampering

make sure u give im multi vits after charcoal tab

not bro x sis but father to daughter and that was to close bred rubbish only way breed a few off them you might a good n and if they ok cross them into something outside your family JMO

your right owen it is time consuming and it seems to suits the hens better we've always found 75% of the time the hens outperformed the cocks but we train the hens regular and feed them differently to the cocks JMO

fitter & turner then had a stroke and other things never worked since

hens better than cocks on roundabout my mates been 1st& amal with roundabout hens from bourges 556mls

4 OUT OF 8

45-50

colin surtees from chilton co.durham he gets them done will try and get his number 4 u

ME TO

QUALITY MARK QUALITY

WE HAD A RAT GETTIN IN NOT SO LONG BACK TRIED EVERYTHING LIKE I SAID IN PREVIOUS THRED TRIED EVERYTHING RATGLUE GOT IT BEAUTY OF IT IS OWT GETS ON IT IT DONT COME OFF BUT KEEP IT OUT OF THE WAY OF THE BIRDS IF ITS MICE OR RATS THIS WILL CATCH EM AND YOU'LL KNOW ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

BEANS + A GOOD YB MIX HOMOFORM

WATS WRONG WI ANGUS ALAN :

forcast permitting totally agree get them up give the birds that can a chance to get back in good tim

be interesting to know how many of these eyesign "SPECIALISTS" go into a loft and recommend the bin 4 there best racers on the basis of eyesign. theres xception to te rule in evevrthiing but if eyesign worked you' d be picking your racers b4 your ybs start exercising its been said b4 the basket is the 1 and only true measure

4 days after weaning

think me and you arguing same point from diff angles i'm not from up there i'm below you and all for early lib weather & conditions prmitting get them up give them that can the chance to get home on the day

stb least we agree on something

now you altering the thread suddenly there middle distance birds are distanc birds its management that has alot to do with how yor birds perform

SO REVERT BAK TO APREVIOUS REPLY (sorry left caps on) tumblers havegood eyes but they ain't gonna win you any races

ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY BAD PIGEONS HAVE GOOD EYES

there s adifference naedoo a bird out overnight and flwn 250mls+ in more often than not adverse conditions takes it toll it cannot replace what energy supply its usd up by sitting in a tree its the love of home that gets them back home quicker imo a WINNING dsitance pigeon will get as close to home as possible b4 it roosts up why do think theres always 1 or 2 out in front ? JMO