lol thats true what roland said,lol went to a wedding last year they were having a so called dove release.lol there was two in this lovely decorated cage thing,a cock and hen,well ive neva seen a dove with eye ceres and wattle like the cock in there lol.I go to the geeza whos doves they were i use the term doves losely,he goes there half dove and half pigeon,its funny they had racing rings on there legs,now that geeza musta ave thought i was a fool,cos i dnt think anyone would race a dove cross pigeon.LoL I Just looked at the guy smiled lol and walked away laughing.Do white logans do any good jus a query