the new transpoters are are top class i think the most birds to be put in these crates should be 20 22 the most regards the loses of birds i think nowadays we keep to many birds thats just not god enough for the job we talk about the low birdages in the longer races the time the inland races are bye there are no birds left for the big distance races face facts a lot of the birds are just not made for the job its bloody hard nowadays to get good distance birds to cope with the job ahead for them you get folk putting birds away to inland nationals say maybe a dozen hoping they get one through thats not good birds or fancier they are just lifting birds from a loft and living in hope the losses are mostley down to bad birds and not right in condition or health