dal2

Aye that easy

Does you have a special pigeon every year , or maybe two or three, that you earmark for the big races? Do you let them tell you what races they go to?

Wish we could play tottingham every week

Whats your preferred nest state cock and hen for the channel?

Shap would be next on line

Get away Ower yer ain end

I do like a conditioner tho Martin......I know there's plenty say just fresh water and clean corn and they win regular....but am sticking wae it....whatever yin it is lol

I still have a bottle of wonder pigeon so if the results don't shape up I can blame the avidress and go back to the wonder pigeon ....then look for a bottle of Johnsons somewhere lol

Used it all year last year for young and old. Found in had to be very careful with the dilution for the old birds as they would sometimes turn their nose up at the smell if it was too strong. The droppings were perfect all year. My dad prefers the avidress but I see no difference...it will be avidress this year so we will soon find out

Happy birthday guys.....special mention for club mate and super old guy Wattie

Ye lots of work Martin that's for sure....we tried it here with 12 cocks and hens in identical ensure with a sliding door.....they didn't race any better than norm

Should there not be boxed sections for both on roundabout?

Hopefully he will take his lead from you then David lol

Of course....but the man writing this blog is going the whole hog.....am saying that's daft....what are your views on a full team of only latebreds dkj?

My initial gripe is that the thought that a team of latebreds is a better way forward than a team of spring bred, schooled and raced yearlings for the following year....unless it's just me that finds them hard work and at a very much lower strike rate than the normal?

So more about sitting in yer garden from a smash or toughie than getting and then knowing that you have got yer bird RIGHT? Am I close?

Naebody breeds of birds that aren't though of as their best John regardless of time of year.....should yer best performance at the water when sitting babies well then that's a bonus.....my best are bred from birds that have never been out of the loft....food for thought there perhaps?

Ok Peter you win mate. I am going to continue with my ways ....that are no way the old way....and race my doos and enjoy....but racing pigeons hasn't changed much at all and doesn't need reinvented

I would like to think myself a modern thinker John. We don't train thru the week with old birds until the gold cup prep. We like the loft to help as easy as possible for club racing so no nests are found between March and may....just a widow loft....some are paired for the water depending on how they race best. I have full faith in the stock that bred my race team so therefore should be able to breed like again. The breeding of good yins is a bit of a lottery as I am sure you have came across regular but you must trust blood. This however is not the point of my initial gripe but thought of a team of untested and untrained latebreds being of the same esteem as a schooled ..spring bred team is just daft in my opinion. Old values may be tinkered with but to abandon spring babies for latebreds makes no sense percentage wise and I can't belive for one minute that I am alone in watching latebreds gan like....snow aff a dyke

Better fanciers than me that's for sure....

That's top bombing John and you have done real well......but it's about the whole picture ....what about the spring bred babies..how many can you remember good results? Or should you stick to latebreds?

Guess am no yin of them then lol......and you have known of Lot of good fanciers... What about these good fanciers that have no stock? Or very little....do they have latebreds?

No....birds weaned in February ....perched after that until cycle to set for channel

Naebody said that ye shouldn't but the question is do you have a greater number of latebreds doing the biz compared to the birds you bred in the spring?

So if you breed a late bred this year after say may you will start it on the road 2018?