Derek, the pigeon fancy is determined to disappear up its own *expletive removed* wae petty arguments about decisions that are made at committee level elected by the members? Is this true? Others would point score between one organisation and another? A situation that now seems to have escalated from snfc/snrpc to Lanarkshire/snfc? Some would even have a massive moan about what time somebody else clocked their pigeon and they had the nerve not to inform then, wots all that about?