This week's Fed result has not yet been worked out, I am still waiting on returns from the clubs, however, although your stats are incorrect, you are correct Charlie, we do lose pigeons on the route. The problems on the route are the coastal haar in areas like Arbroath, Portlethen and Fraserburgh. Montrose has the haar and is in a low basin. This year's route is back to where it used to be, more inland and closer to the hills, so we encounter mist pockets within the valleys. It can be excellent at the lib point, but if you go to early, then the valleys may not be fully clear. When you pass Fraserburgh to go to Thurso, you have the mountains and glens, so this is very inhospitable terrain. As to the home end, the best ones to comment on that are the Stranraer members, they have to fly the length of Ayrshire before reaching home. This points out the difficulties, but I am sure that the south route has difficulties as well.