Roland

What has happen to the 1 4 and 5 lots? :-/ Have no bid?

Can't believe them getting shot of Bobby robson!!! What were they dreaming of? The best they could hope for was a Place in Europe. Did Bobby do that for them? Yes of course. Any thing like a Cup Final / breaking into the top four would, and still would be, a bonus... So the ones that acheived this were sacked :-/ :-/ Was a different messiah than Keegan, or Shearer they needed, But first should have taken a few rain checks!!! :o Look have they have fared and how undr the managers in the last 12 years.... Will make a great Championship side, with great support for that table I guess. Yes they can still stay up, and I'd say 60/40 they will.... Mind the North East does seem to be dominating the relegation slot eh!

Off to a flyer start I reckon!

I'm wish I could afford a fiver lol :o ;D ;D Hope they both do wll for you all though.

No I didn't matey lol... ;D ;D It was 5, and not six. However, several have scored 4 -5 goals.... Don't see shearer's name there though lol. 04-Sep-1999 3 Shearer, Alan, V Luxembourg Wembley Stadium, Yes I rated Malcolm a great striker... This is one I just looked up actually and found it interesting... http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamHist/RecsPlyrGlsMtchChron.html

No I didn't matey lol... ;D ;D It was 5, and not six. However, several have scored 3 - 4 -5 goals.... Don't see shearer's name there though lol. Yes I rated Malcolm a great striker... This is one I just looked up actually and found it interesting... http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamHist/RecsPlyrGlsMtchChron.html

Other Leading Goal Scorers: Tom Finney (30 goals from 76 appearances – 1946-1958) But for ratio, these are also very impressive Nat Lofthouse (30 from 33 – 1950-58) Vivian Woodward (29 from 23 – 1903-11) Steve Bloomer (28 from 23 – 1895-1907) David Platt (27 from 62 – 1989-96) Shearer's Alan Shearer (30 from 63 – 1992-2000) doesn't look quite so impressive really now does it? :-/ Owens actually score the same ratio Michael Owen has scored 40 goals for England from 88 appearances. With England undergoing change under new manager Fabio Capello, Owen is the only current player who could challenge Charlton’s record. However, fitness problems in the past seasons have restricted his appearances and he will need to re-establish himself in the England team. Owen made his debut against Chile in 1998 but it was his fourth game against Morocco before he scored. His most memorable goal scoring performance for England is his hat-trick against Germany in the 5-1 World Cup qualifying victory. He has also scored a hat-trick in a friendly against Columbia.

Well is that in toatl? like England's Top 3 goal scorers are: Bobby Charlton (1958-1970) with 49 goals in 106 appearances. Gary Lineker (1984-1992) with 48 goals in 80 appearances. Jimmy Greaves (1959-1967) with 44 goals in 57 appearances. Or ratio to games per goals? Like the greatest being Jimmy Greaves with 44 goals in just 57 appears. More goals than Shearer, and less games of course. In fact no one is anywhere near Greasie in that respect. Other facts and records that might be of an interest are ........ England Records The first international match played by England took place on 30th November 1872 against Scotland in Glasgow. The final score was 0-0. RECORD WIN - England 13 Ireland 0 - Belfast, Feb 18, 1882. RECORD WIN AT WEMBLEY - England 9 Luxembourg 0 - Wembley, Dec 15, 1982. RECORD DEFEAT - England 1 Hungary 7 - Budapest, May 23, 1954. BIGGEST HOME ATTENDANCE - 100,000 England v Scotland - Wembley, May 26 1979. BIGGEST AWAY ATTENDANCE - 160,000 Brazil v England - Maracana Rio, May 13 1959. LOWEST ATTENDANCE - 2,378 England v San Marino - Bologna, Nov 17 1993. Bobby Charlton is England's highest ever goal scorer with 49 goals. Gary Lineker is close behind with 48. Gary Lineker is the only England player to win the Golden Boot at the world cup finals, after he netted six times in the 1986 tournament in Mexico. Jimmy Greaves holds the record for the most international goals scored for England in one season, when he netted 13 times in the 1960/61 season. Jimmy Greaves also has the best goals to games ratio in England history. He scored 44 goals in 57 games. That's an average of one goal every 1.3 games. Bryan Robson scored the fastest ever England goal, during the 1982 World Cup Finals in Bilbao. He netted after just 27 seconds in their opening match against France on June 16 1982. Bryan Robson also holds the record for the fastest England goals scored at Wembley - 38 seconds vs. Yugoslavia - Dec 13, 1989 and 44 seconds vs. N.Ireland - Feb 23, 1982. Willie Hall scored the fastest ever England hat-trick in just 31/2 minutes against Ireland, at Old Trafford, on Nov 16, 1938. Tinsley Lindley of Cambridge University holds the record for the most consecutive goals scored for England, when he netted in 9 International matches in a row. Peter Shilton is the most capped England player of all time. The goalkeeper holds the record after playing 125 games for his country. Billy Wright compiled the most consecutive amount of caps for England. He made 70 appearances in a row for his country between Oct 1951 and May 1959. Billy Wright and Bobby Moore were England's longest serving captains with 90 caps apiece as the team's leader. James Prinsep became the youngest player to ever represent England. He was just 17 years and 252 days old when played against Scotland on April 5, 1879. The youngest player to be capped for England in the 20th Century was Michael Owen. When he played against Chile on Feb 11 1998 he was aged just 18 years and 59 days. Michael Owen is also England's youngest ever goal scorer. He netted against Morocco in Casablanca, aged 18 years and 147 days, on May 27 1998. England's youngest ever captain was Bobby Moore. He first led his country aged 22 years and 48 days, in England's 4-2 win over Czechoslovakia on May 29, 1963. Stanley Matthews is the oldest player to ever represent his country. On his last appearance for England against Denmark in Copenhagen on May 15, 1957, he was 42 years and 104 days old. Stanley Matthews is also the oldest player ever to score for England. He was 41 years and 248 days old, when he scored against N.Ireland in Belfast on Oct 6, 1956. The oldest player ever to make his debut for England was Leslie Compton against Wales at Roker Park on Nov 15, 1950. He was 38 years and 2 months old. Alan Mullery was the first England player to be sent off when he was red carded against Yugoslavia, in Florence on June 5, 1968. Paul Scholes was the first player to be sent off on English soil when he was dismissed against Sweden at Wembley on June 5, 1999. The first England substitute was Jimmy Mullen who replaced Jackie Milburn after 10 minutes against Belgium on May 18,1950. England's Top 3 goal scorers are: Bobby Charlton (1958-1970) with 49 goals in 106 appearances. Gary Lineker (1984-1992) with 48 goals in 80 appearances. Jimmy Greaves (1959-1967) with 44 goals in 57 appearances

Well, beside the other whim or two, I believe that both Liverpool and Arsenal will go for much needed class where they both lack at the minute. One in each third. A Terry / Vidic / Ferdinhan in the centre BACK A stopper in Mid field ... yes I know Liverpool may well have G Evan next season, but stilll need a cruncher, and tackler or merit. And Liverpool another to help when Torres isn't playing. Yeah both will need an helper, and play alternative weeks et. Asenal have goal scorers from all over, just need another mid fielder like they had in Peirrer. Yes United will need to bring in again a couple, .... but then who really cares lol ;D ;D

Yes.... and well deserved win. Strange how now, especially after Man U's loverly loss there, the Media have been shown they are a great battling side - Must be Fulham knocked Kettering out the FA. Cup eh! strueth! lol ;D ;D. And how now no one goes to Craven Cottage expecting a win. But in reality Liverpool from the highlights shown - were the class act, and got that so - calle well earnt break at the end, like all and any great side does / needs to and have. Next year I fancy it finishing 1. Liverpool 2. Arsenal 3. Aston Villa 4. Chelsea 5. Man U. and then the Everton's / Fulham/ and Boltons again....

Was a fella around here, was a great footballer - when he wasn't pee'd and turned up. His name John Fury. Same religeon and place apparently as the great Jimmy. Got into the reserve side, was an awful big head. Thought he was a hard case too at that. Mouthed Jimmy and took a time coming round... happened 2 - 3 times more taking a pasting.... Moral was if he couldn't control a Mouth, nor understand Jimmy's point of view e'd never buckle down and be sharp enough to be a credit regards football Was moved on.... and never did learn, just turned out as Jimmy said, a worhless waste of time... Made it as a first class cretin, a drunken, posser and woman beater. My but what a footballer.... never did no good though. Know quite a few that got great breaks.... but the WHOLE package has to be there to make it.... and to be a legen.... well born and honed but their own affinity!

One has often believed, thought that a pigeon forgets. Of course this is not so, - one needlessly nedn't go through countless known facts to know this. The pigeon, regardless of age, stays and homes simply because it wants to. Indeed confinement seems to strengthen a need to be back where it wants to be. So simply a pigeon has to accomandate and perfer to be where it is NOW! To break a bird properly rgardless of age is to allow the bird to adopt with Freedom and asense of safty. Simple that. We've all been amazed when we start training the nestling from one side of the box to the other, the ajacent loft when you often were surprised t see them back in the ole nest boxes - indeed many birds back from an long period are often found there. But then, I'm just an laymen that says it sensibly.... best get a rocket scientist I guess to trup it up and add thousand on could be's and maybes I suppose. Like breaking points.... No such thing, can't and coldn't be. Indeed to even believe as such is - when actually thought about it - is ludicrious. But getting the mileage under the wings, regardless what direct is important, like wise the Stiffness one want to impose on the bird. You want a breaking point! Look at the wind. Take the Arc etc. I have, as many here have, seen birds battling to home with a side head wind or such! Have notice it's constant swerve to rejust it direct! Even spout Friday night with pretty good acrucassy - via the wind, where the winners will be in the morning! How a 'Good Un' comes on line! That is why those that can afford to buy their location DO! Simple again I guess. Yes an 8 ounce ball of fluff, bone and feather can't / won't dictate to the wind.... ships can't - thay set the course OFF line for the Wind / currancies even, to end up on course at arrival. When I flew to Canada, they had a Chart up for th passagers to see their journey. Was a dotted line which had be planned, and a solid line where the WInd would take us, having to go Way out and over B.C and aboveeven to eventualy follow a line down Quebec. And fanciers- those with glib tongue that tickle eager ears crap - that one has to get their bird fitter, faster, more determine etc. etc. And just maybe 150 fancier in vastly superior lacation will all have a 'Off Day' To put it bluntly, I fly against Bristow, Tasker, Newborn, Geoff Clare etc. etc. with out going up to Loagh, all Between 70 and 100 miles 'East' of me. Say, in a North Westerly Wind from Frazerbourgh, by how much will I beat them all. And If I could.... though logic tells us it can't be done, did get my birds in beter condition, shape and Health - there their reputatations have all just gone up in smoke lol - I will beat tem by even more!!! I'll bet you could even get a bet o them beating me lol :P ;D ;D ;D Hope you don't bump your bed when falling out and waking up.... Must be the Strong coffee.

Car Fan.... run on a battery or 12 Volt Transformer.

One Spot, chinese Chalk, etc.

Alan Shearer England Appearances & Goals Record (*Captain) Caps Goals Date Venue Opponent Result Comp Thoight I'd widen the Appearences and Goals. 1 1 19/2/92 London France W 2-0 FR 2 29/4/92 Moskva Soviet Union D 2-2 FR 3 14/6/92 Malmö France D 0-0 EC 4 9/9/92 Santander Spain L 1-0 FR 5 14/10/92 London Norway D1-1 WCQ 6 1 1 8/11/92 London Turkey W 4-0 WCQ 7 13/10/93 Rotterdam Holland L 2-0 WCQ 8 9/3/94 London Denmark W 1-0 FR 9 1 17/5/94 London Greece W 5-0 FR 10 22/5/94 London Norway D 0-0 FR 11 2 7/9/94 London United States W 2-0 FR 12 12/10/94 London Romania D 1-1 FR 13 16/11/94 London Nigeria W 1-0 FR 14 15/2/95 Dublin Republic of Ireland Void FR 15 3/6/95 London Japan W 2-1 FR 16 8/6/95 Leeds Sweden D 3-3 FR 17 11/6/95 London Brazil L 3-1 FR 18 6/9/95 London Colombia D 0-0 FR And mostly not against world class team eh! 19 11/10/95 Oslo Norway D 0-0 FR 20 15/11/95 London Switzerland W 3-1 FR 21 12/12/95 London Portugal D 1-1 FR 22 18/5/96 London Hungary W 3-0 FR 23 23/5/96 Beijing China W 3-0 FR

Well a great striker, no two ways about that! But for Englang? :-/ You worry me there :o Not many England managers would have put up with him for the first three years for Starters.... then 63 games. 30 goals! :-/ Hardley breathe taking Just look at how the first 4 years went! Alan Shearer England Appearances & Goals Record (*Captain) Caps Goals Date Venue Opponent Result Comp 1 1 19/2/92 London France W 2-0 FR 2 29/4/92 Moskva Soviet Union D 2-2 FR 3 14/6/92 Malmö France D 0-0 EC 4 9/9/92 Santander Spain L 1-0 FR 5 14/10/92 London Norway D1-1 WCQ 6 1 18/11/92 London Turkey W 4-0 WCQ 7 13/10/93 Rotterdam Holland L 2-0 WCQ 8 9/3/94 London Denmark W 1-0 FR 9 1 17/5/94 London Greece W 5-0 FR 10 22/5/94 London Norway D 0-0 FR 11 2 7/9/94 London United States W 2-0 FR 12 12/10/94 London Romania D 1-1 FR 13 16/11/94 London Nigeria W 1-0 FR 14 15/2/95 Dublin Republic of Ireland Void FR 15 3/6/95 London Japan W 2-1 FR 16 8/6/95 Leeds Sweden D 3-3 FR 17 11/6/95 London Brazil L 3-1 FR 18 6/9/95 London Colombia D 0-0 FR 19 11/10/95 Oslo Norway D 0-0 FR 20 15/11/95 London Switzerland W 3-1 FR 21 12/12/95 London Portugal D 1-1 FR 22 18/5/96 London Hungary W 3-0 FR 23 23/5/96 Beijing China W 3-0 FR

Cold.... thoughts..... he'll be back, he loves the game, not the 'Plonkers' glib tongued faternity that tickle ears.... to their own liking.

Burley has a good track record, and gets results when left to it... seems his bosses like to claim a little unhearaded limes lights... Simply he is the BEST available manager Scotland has a chance of, or could afford. Where did Walter take them.... and didnae sell the short again last time? McCliesh, after he sold them out, how good has he done. Tommy Docherty was one that should have just given a free range too... I don'y think Strachen could hack it a this moment of time. Ferguson would have wanted 6 years warm up ... Shankley!!! You've great managers.... great indivual players, even a great hubb - last time was 1978 I'd say....

Crikey, didn't know the Weslh assembly was a tint of Thatcherism lol :P ;D ;D

So when does my bird arrive eh! :-/ :-/ :o And are you paying carriage too? :-/ :P ;D ;D ;D Nice one.... Bet London Zoo is been busy again this morning too, fo Mr Lyons etc. etc. They actually have line extentions to deal with the April Fool cracks, true.

Could simply use any race on any given day. Ok, so might not be actually real ring numbers... I.e. he sells as many as likes, using a rota of GB Numbered rings... I.e agai GB06F35426 GB06K26553 ETC. Then on Racenight simply tally in order etc. Like First birds basketed if GB07Y41178 which becomes GB06F35426, second bird basketed is GB06T96721 which becomes GB06K26553 and so forth. Then genuinely use their correct places, regardless whether 398 or whatever as 'First Bird' etc. No problems there then. eh! :o :-/

Could simply use any race on any given day. Ok, so might not be actually real ring numbers... I.e. he sells as many as likes, using a rota of GB Numbered rings... I.e agai GB06F35426 GB06K26553 ETC. Then on Racenight simply tally in order etc. Like First birds basketed if GB07Y41178 which becomes GB06F35426, second bird basketed is GB06T96721

Saw an article in last weeks BH about Crows looking after their territory. Well I guess any help, no matter how little is a help. Had the crows here... as soon as the s/h got peeved off he / she removed them. Then like Bill Butterfields, he fed the to keep them around too.... till they ended up killing his y/b's. Next you will be believing that as Merlin chase of Ketrals and kesters Sparrow hawks.... It just doesn't happen. Yes they mobb, like they do the harmless 'Red Kite' full stop, when they get peeved of, hawks etc. make crows just another sauce in the food chain. No two ways about that.

Yeah, I reckon the cocks rear up higher lol ;D ;D

IB.... I believe we are actually talking about the 'Duff' rings that have been about for a while now ... AT least I'd give the poster the realism that they know what to do etc.