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I guess, but nice to recall first, then be opened to being put right I guess lol.

Can't recall a Dave Ward fighting Minter. Know my club mate won the ABA the year before him, and lost in a close bout to him in the Semi's next year. But Dave was way under par as his wife threathen she would hand around if he carried on boxing ... walked out on him the day before the fight and wasn't around etc...

Great, and very down to earth and genuine fighter. His father incidently was a very good pigeon fancier to boot, ... till about 3 years a or so ago. Yes he lost to Hagler in six. Beat Minter of course and lost to Kevin Finnigan .... who was underrated I guess because Chris his brother was a genuine great. Remember when they tempted Sibson to stand in for a short notice Light Heavywieght World title fight ... His answer was simple. 'Why.... I'm a middleweight.

What a great left hand eh. Great lightwieght, was British Champ. he lostto Charnley. Fought Carlo Ortiz the great man himself and lost on points. Won and held the title for 3 years after Chanley retired. So he had his chances. I believe he died November 2001. But was a great Brit.

;D ;D ;D Mind it's no blumming wonder them Spartans could fight eh! Enough to make any one fight lol.

Aye, may well be true, as it was the Spartans (Men of course) that form the close alliance and bonding by having sex with one another. ;D ;D

Joe Jeanette, Sam Wills, Harry Langford, Peter Jackson, Joe Comasky were all ducked. I thin Jack Demsey has the mantle for ducking each and everyone that had breathe. Most of those above for starters. Said they were 'Wife Beaters', 'Owed Money', 'Was a drunkard' etc. etc. Indeed just look at any of the ranked Heavywieghts he fought .... Yep that done lol. Middleweights were his favourites, and raw novices lol.

never got a shot on local or world stage, or were way past their best when they got it. This will rack you brains and bring many boxers back to memory I feel / hope.

Think they'd think they were con artists and a joke.... But respect the ability of making easy money. Would feel for the likes of Junior Witter etc. who are genuinely greats and are side stepped. Remember when the great Cassius / Ali was giving EVERYONE who'd deserves a shot at the title a chance. Yes Cleaveland Williams, Zora folly etc. till he was banned. like he said, a be belated perhaps for some, but at least if they don't beat me, they will have a good pay day to retire to. Remeber the great Percy Kid Lewis when 'Names wouldn't fight him.... 3 years before he go any fights.... again after he'd gone over.

Great reading is always with schaerlaeckens articles. I have read a lot of his articles, and have a lot more to go. All have sense and realism.... Like there is no such thing as Eye sign in Belgium, not even word even for it, and is regarded as a joke there it etc. etc. However many do, and have great store in it. Indeed many are famed, and many certainly have made great roads and calculations with it to a certain sucess. http://www.schaerlaeckens.com/ is a must for his writings. For the Dutch ratings / results , champion pigeons etc. Babel with translate for you if needed. http://www.npo.nl/vluchten/nationale-kampioenschappen/NK2008-1 needs

No. But found the chest freezer cause midrew. Glass is also great to line under the loft, up any steps or pillars,Between lofts - panelled each side. Rodents can't get near anything then. Into the loft or feed.

Did the chest Freezer. Done the Bins. Builta great wooden chest with departs that holds a over half a ton. Am lining it with glass as soon as I have time. This of course will be glued flat against all sides / lids and floor.

;) ;D ;DSo do I Gangster just said so ... amd I'm not arguing there am I lol ;D ;D

Good to see you back around lordcornwallis. Wondered where you've been. As for them pigeons, I personally know nowt about them. Often said 'If in doubt.... leave it out'. But I'm sure someone on here will soon put you wise.

Already talking codswallop and making excuses why 'Fights' won't take place. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8397705.stm Mind, they will still make £millions without. Remember well about a great heavy wieght that upset 'Powers In Office' so to speak, and you can forget managers and supposedly promoters, who said 'He will never get a pro lincence here or anywhere else' We have a heavywight he can sparr with, and we'll prove we don't need 'Greats' to make money. The lad WAS cerrailed into sparring with the best. Could have taken our then British Champ and future world champ to the cleaners any time.... but was regulated to being a sparring partner to the creme de creme. Don't need the toughness and skill.... need able match - makers and Good media friends, and a wise mouth piece. Like the mans says, we rewrite and make history, with whom is up to us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8398192.stm Both stable mates and Warren wants the WBO title for Mitchell. Yes they will talk the talk and spout about walking the walk only.

You mean give Junior Witter the title. Best we've had for the past decade and a half. Trouble is A. Too good for his own good. B. a 'Hitter, and C. wieghs them up. Nigh 40 now, and still they won't take him on. Only man Mayweather pulled out from - admitted was on a % thing of future earnings, The risk being too high of being caught against the '£Millions he was destined to earn. Was a laugh at Hattons talk in when we - well not I admitted - when the first thing he said was aways 'Don't ask me question regards Junior Witter ....' No fool that man, and again made £millions by not fighting him. Yes I fel for Witter. HE does get up ones nose, is regarded as arrogant, but then badly mauled in media, and no doubt has no P.R. man. But what a great.... Best since Dave Chanley.... or in real terms record wise unbelievably better. Now that takes some beating. Yet Khan etc. will go on and make a fortune, - good luck to him - has a managerment that Talk the fights, like Calzaghe, and be regared and remembered as a great. Jim Watts would have laughed at him, like many more.

I'm having a senior senile moment. The courier that is in Wales and dropped his price from £30 odd to £28 etc. -Not that that is why I phone him, but because it is territory - I phoned him, and didn't retain his numbers / website etc. Any help appreciate as I have to have one picked up from Brecon. Cheers in advance

This happens many times most seasons. I know a few Selling off birds that they don't have any longer. And many more winning with someones elses birds and still selling their old 'Has - beens on the 'Understanding' that these are still doing the buisness. Yes a great name made by one household name flew a different bird - Originally - and then after that name was no longer, continued sell the new strain which were also more than good. This last one I have no qualms with really as they were the birds that had done the goods. The others....... Well lets say I always atate, if you have a repore with a certain fellow, trust your first gut feeling and believe you are BOTH being honest with each other, then that is as good as you will ever get.

Strapper, as England is so much Bigger - population wise - than all the the other UK countries put together I'd think, we therefore have more votes to cast. Like voting Lynn Davis as S.P.O Y. etc. just shows we English are only to happy to be fair and recognise a great. Yes Liz McColgan, not been one like her since, and seldom ever before - Paula ratcliffe at the Marathon obviously - How Liz took the African mighty distance runners on and refused to be led and let the pace drop, fill everyone with pride and admiration. Yes she ran them into the ground. Look at the Stewart Family! Ian, Peter and Mary ALL greats! And many more of course. I remember the Welsh Rugby stars getting the nodd and voted for and being SPOY too. In all and every case there was, and obviously always will be, English players etc that demand respect and could - justifiably often - have been voted for. Yet the English are renowned for bending over backwards to be fair even at cost to them selve and NO ONE can argue with that realistic proven fact. Yet we still will run the guantlet ever time we excel at something.

George was a big mate of mine,I visted his loft 3 or 4 times a week,If we weren't at his loft George would take us up to Eric Edwards of Keswick another fancier who had some of the best.George left Cumbria and went to live at Higham Ferrers nearer his familly.When the Cumberland Social meeting or sales were on he always called for a cuppa and usually left me the choice of a bird and the other would go in the sale.Never failed to leave something special. Lindsay. Yes, he had a Stud here - I was and am 8 miles from Higham Ferrers. Or at least did sell a lot of birds. I know one particular chappie that visited him a lot here abouts and did exceedinly well with them. But he was selling Bussearts then.... may have also had Vandies and other strains, I don't know. But his birds top the fed here abouts often, and at the distance too.

Exactly, and I also 100%. Good sensible post that. Just look at how us English voted for Alan Wells, Liz McLoughlin, Chris Hoy etc. as 'Sports Personality ogf the Year' etc. Seem we English never have problems giving credit where credit is due and VOTING as such.... Sorry I suppose the Above all of a sudden became Brits. They always were, but were VOTED as and always mentioned as Scots, voiced as Scots, as was the great Mary Peters! So just where the crap scenario has took hold of is from the odd once and then convienently taken out of concept. Like trying to get a Scot to name the 5th famous Scot lol

I think Angus is really peeved because we English are yet again on the WORLD stage. ;D ;D ;D

Still waiting for the information as to WHERE and WHEN the Scots, Welsh, Irish ever won any team game to be labelled Brits instead of Irish, Welsh, Scottish lol. Certainly not ever on a European circuit and never ever on a WORLD platform! So be gracious and enjoy the favour of you letting us English abide your bad mouthing and with gusto. lol Indeed don't know why they have Shirts. Save money just to have Black shorts and then play in a natural Green tops lol ;D ;D ;D

Cool, saves you bothering to read my posts any more... See just how good I am to you, saving you time reading when you could be educating yourself with better informative matters... Will also save you racking your brain for a constructive, worthwhile and useful comment. Now wipe your mouth you still have 'Brown' dripping from it! ;D ;D ;D