hello my originall birds was direct bread birds,which i obtained at the age of 10 years thay were not burnt out,bread many champs before i got them and many champs after in fact,have results up to 2008 which would make your eys water best 1 day perfomance i would say 10 entrys 10 in the 1st 20 in the fed all bread from old stock, the most famous being magic blue un beatable at nat level, his sire was 15 his dam 10,like i tryed to explain its how thay have been treated,and yes thay would be 4 sale at the right price,give me my oldies against any yearlin 2yearold at stock any day.