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  1. DeDarren

    egg food

    Did anybody see the letter from the owner of Osmonds in this week's BHW asking for fanciers to test out cow's collostrum for them during the coming breeding season? According to said owner of Osmonds, it has a lot of proven health benefits in other animal related industries when used as a breeding / rearing supplement.
  2. I'd like to nominate OLD YELLOW.
  3. DeDarren

    cracked it 3

    Oh if only you knew how HEAVY Sir!
  4. DeDarren

    cracked it 3

    Mr DeDarren to you sunshine!
  5. DeDarren

    cracked it 3

    Darren from Liverpool. Cheers mate
  6. DeDarren

    cracked it 3

    Volume 3 is the Ron Williamson edition isn't it? A quality trilogy and I await the next instalment from the maestro with much anticipation! Say hello for me please Wiley!
  7. How did the sale / show go?
  8. They got everywhere! Even the 'super sprinters' of Rene Nauwelaerts have Tournier bloodlines.
  9. I have recently bought 3 Koopman hens from Jaap, 2 of them have a wee cross of Van Hove Uytterhoven blood in them but this was by Koopman prior to selling the parents to Jaap. The hens are typical of the breed, time will only tell.
  10. Just sent you the advert via PM Bob. Darren.
  11. I've just had a gander through one of my old stud books (BHW 2001) and there is a partnership by the name of C. McEwan & Son of Luton, whose breeding establishment is known as Patricia Lofts and their contact numbers are 01582 615 467 or 01462 769 032. THE ORIGINAL ALF BAKER CHAMPION STASSART BLOODLINES is how they are advertising their stock and it also says Occasional Silvers for sale, price on application. Bearing in mind this advert was 7 years ago, but I hope this helps Bob!
  12. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TUDORLOFTS! All the best mate!
  13. DeDarren

    rats

    If you check page 15 of this week's BHW, there is an advert/article, 'Science Turns The Tables On Rats And Mice'. Something new for the armoury in the eternal fight against rodent-kind perhaps and here's the website it mentions mate. http://www.eradibait.com/
  14. Superb Michael, this is it! I wonder if anybody has an actual copy of the findings?
  15. The main man his very self is Thomas Ryves and he is a right gentleman, but for the life of me I cannot locate the address or telephone number. I'll have a look at a few old papers and get back to you if you've had no luck JR, but you could try phoning the BHW offices tomorrow, they will always give out a contact number for any of their advertisers.
  16. That's what it's all about Leroy, enjoyment my friend. And if all else fails for anybody who is racing white'uns but find themselves just off the pace, there's always GPRS! ;D
  17. It's probably my geography that's out then Tony, but glad to know I never imagined it! The case for the winning white racing pigeon continues!
  18. I broke my novice status in the mighty Liverpool Amal from 5,129 pigeons by 12 minutes with a white pied cock many moons ago. Sadly for me, I lost him a year later over the pond. Oh yes, the very many harsh lessons we must learn in our pigeoneering careers! He came from a Cattrysse hen I was gifted by a very kind Mr Vic & John Draper from the Faringdon, Oxon area. John still advertises in the BHW most weeks mainly DePruts and others, but still, his white Cattrysse pop up for sale from time to time. The 2 original hens I had from Messrs Draper, would fly and fly and fly for hours every day, much longer than the other bag of strags I had in my back-alley way set-up back then, which was a haven for a very large and oft' marauding legion of feral cats I might add. Their offspring were very honest pigeons for me, indeed my better performances at that time were thanks in part to their offspring, crossed with anything and everything I had in my lofts, DeBaeres, Verheyes, Busschaerts and even a very good Boeykens pigeon from a Mr Fletcher of Bolton that came in as a stray and was partly responsible for winners in the following 2 generations of breeding! Coming back to the present (and wiping a nostalgic tear from my eye ) the white and white grizzle Camiel Cardons have done really well in the Liverpool Amal area for the past 3-4 seasons, most notably for a partnership by the name of Mick & Adam O'Hara, who fly in the Maghull H.S. Also for others with the white grizzles of the Walter Docx family. There is also another chap, Ray Baker who advertises them in the BHW as 'Ray's White Rockets' which are possibly the Cardons, crossed with the nouveau coveted Roland Janssens. He publishes his results in his adverts too and they seem to be winning for Ray and for the others who have them off him. A club mate of mine also recently 'broke his duck' in our club with a white grizzle Camiel Cardon in what is a pretty competitive club, so there are some good whites out there and the more there are filling the skies, the more chance you should have of getting one through! Not forgetting the pure white Van Reet Tranquility Lofts auctioned off for charitable causes in 2005, the only such pigeon they had ever bred from that family apparently. I think it made well over a grand, some cash for hawk-bait or a dropper, though I doubt I would be racing it at that price either! I remember reading in the Letters to the Editor page of the BHW about 2 years ago, I think it was a Welsh fancier stating that they had conducted research and tallied results in conjunction with some 'scientific research body' or other (maybe the RSPB in disguise? ) and their results at the end of the trial suggested that pied pigeons had a higher success rate of evading capture, especially those with a lot of white back and tail feathers as they appeared to confuse the pursuing raptor in the moments just prior to their ensuing (failed I assume?) capture as they twisted and turned in the air for their poor lives, and I remember thinking at the time, 'surely this is a wind-up?' (My Dad always used to tell me as a nipper, 'whites were hawk bait' and thus, owning and racing them in the 80's to a small set-up was out of the question, Thatcher was a right b1tch! haha! ) What I cannot remember is if this fancier's finding related to Peregrines or Sparrowhawks or both, but I definitely did read it. Does anybody else remember reading anything of a similar nature at the time, and if so, do they / you have any more information on it?
  19. Very sad news indeed, like many I remember the good he did for the sport in the North West area and I met him at the Smith Bros Entire Clearance sale a few year's back. What a gent, my condolenses to the Whittle family.
  20. I know this thread is dedicated to the silvers of the fairer sex, but I couldn't help noting that Louella had about 5 beautiful silver cocks for sale on their website roughly 3 weeks ago from their 'Workman' family which is Alf Baker, Stassart based I think, though I could be very wrong! They seem to have them in abundance as they have marketed these silvers regularely on the website during the past year, as well as the 'opal mosaic' Wildemeersch which is another colour entirely I know, but slightly similar, 'depending on the light'..
  21. Lucky so and so!
  22. Hey all, sorry if there is any duplication in the following information, but here is the full transcript from Ad's own website and it highlights perfectly, the perils and pitfalls regarding the topic of this thread! Any female readers, my apologies in advance, but I think Ad writes with a very big tongue in his cheek, I'm just not sure whose tongue it is! http://www.schaerlaeckens.com/ A Pigeon called 'Sissi'. By Ad Schaerlaeckens I write in several pigeon magazines all over the world, in fact it has become my living. When you realise I started writing in 1974 on a weekly base you can imagine how many articles I wrote, not to speak about the Janssen book. And believe it or not, every time a difficult part of the job is finding a good title. Finding a subject to write about is not easy either and for that reason I sometimes write about my own pigeons, about my own experiences, my failures and successes. This article is about a pigeon of mine from 1988 whose band ends in 088. When trying to find a title for this article I was inspired by the famous American movie ‘A fish called Wanda’. Many pigeons have a name. I found ‘Sissi’ a good name for that 1988-hen which was a real super! So when reading further, please doesn’t take me wrong. Do not think I am writing this because I want to sell pigeons as not one child of ‘Sissi’ is for sale. Don’t think either I write this article with the intention to sell her descendants. This bloodline is so popular in Holland that the demand is higher than the supply so I can sell them, anyway. I write this is article because it has a moral: One fancier is smarter than another indeed but in general we know as little about pigeons as Clinton knows about celibacy. ‘We’ that is you, me and the others. Even the greatest champions. O yes we can see if a pigeon is beautiful, we can see if a bird has a strong body. But we cannot see inside the head, if a pigeon is smart. And a pigeon should be smart! I worked a lot with students, young girls. Some were pretty, others were not, some were smart, others were not. I do not know how it is in Taiwan but in Holland the combination (pretty AND smart) is real rare. Sometimes you can meet a girl so pretty that every normal man falls for her. But as soon as she opens her mouth it is over. Such girls do better when they keep their mouths shut. Smart talk seldom comes out of the mouth of pretty girls. As for pigeons I have learned to watch out for birds which are pretty. Because pretty birds which are smart at the same time? That is as rare as pretty girls who are smart. SISSI ‘Sissi’ (she died in April 2000) was a breeding miracle. In 1996 I had 2 first provincial Ace-pigeons (average 11,000 birds in competition) they were brother and sister. This never happened in history. They were descendants of ‘Sissi’. I had 6 best pigeons in Combine: All descendants of Sissi. In 1999 I had again first 2 Ace pigeons Provincial (average 10,000 birds in competition) they were descendants of ‘Sissi’. May 5th of this year (2000) I won 1st against 13,200 pigeons, 7 minutes ahead of the rest in hard weather (98-5812162). He was a descendant of ‘Sissi’. June 24th 2000 I won from Orleans 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th. All descendants of ’Sissi’. In 1996 I won 1st of 24,000 pigeons in hard weather. This bird called ‘Golden Eye’ is in Taiwan now and was a descendant of ‘Sissi’. In 1998 Mr Leyten had 2nd World Champion Long Distance (Versele Laga): Descendant ‘Sissi’. In 1999 Mr de Bruyn had 1st Provincial Ace (5,000 fanciers, ring 1998-1222890) she was also 5th best hen of Holland: Descendant of ‘Sissi’. He has another hen that won 3 firsts, descendants ‘Sissi’. Mr Roks won 9 firsts with descendants ‘Sissi’. Mr van Veen won 1st of 21,000 pigeons. Descendant of ‘Sissi’. In 1998 I won 8th, 10th, and 13th National Orleans. 3 descendants of ‘Sissi’. 98-5812191 won in 2000 in 5 weeks time 4 first prizes in great competition. He is a descendant of Sissi. 99-1944577 won in 3 different races 14,454 p – 1st, 9.508 p – 1st, S-Nat Orleans 10,500 p – 1st. This 577 is a gr.son of 92-5212278. 278 won 7 first prizes and is a son of Sissi. In 1999 I had apart from the first 2 Ace pigeons, Provincial old birds the 1st Ace youngsters: Shirt Distance: Grandchild Sissi. I had also 1st Ace youngsters Middle Distance: Grandchild Sissi. In 2000 Mr V d Zijde has a bird that won at long distance 1st, 1st, 2nd. Two first prizes with 20 minutes advance and it is candidate to be National Ace long distance. Again a grandchild of ‘Sissi’. I stop because it is going to be boring but I could make this list much longer. Once again, this is no propaganda, so do not stop reading as the interesting thing is yet to come, including the answer to the question: ‘How do you get such a super bird?’ That is a pretty long story but it is educational. Here we go. 1991 In 1991 I heard rumours about a cock in Belgium which bred many Super birds. I went up to the owner with an American friend of mine. We asked the Belgian guy: ‘How much do you charge for a youngster off of your Super cock?’ We swallowed when we heard the price. The man must have seen our surprise and said ‘Okay, I will give you a hen free.’ We bought the birds, each of us paid 50 percent and we would share the babies. Back home we opened the basket to have another look at the 2 birds. They seemed to look even uglier than before. ‘I am sorry’ my American friend said, ‘such birds just cannot be any good, do you care if I pass? ‘No problem’ I said and gave him back the money he already paid me. ‘What a dummy I am’ I thought before going to bed. ‘How could I waste money for such rubbish?’ And I swore to be more careful in future when spending money on birds to improve my family. Anyway I had no other choice than to breed babies of the 2 uglies. 1992 The babies off of the cock I bought from that super breeder looked bad but not too bad. The first babies I bred of the hen (‘Sissi’) were horrible and I eliminated them. The following babies were just as horrible but I could not kill them all, could I? However I was lucky. At least that’s what I thought. One of her babies got lost and I was relieved. ‘One bad pigeon less to feed.’ But imagine my surprise when some days later a guy from Hamburg (Germany) phoned me. He had a baby of mine in his loft. I asked for the band number and was happy. It was a child of ‘Sissi’. ‘The bird is yours’ I told the German. ‘You may keep it.’ This was a decent way to get rid of birds I did not like I thought. But imagine my surprise 2 days later. The bird, only 10 weeks old was back in my loft. He made it without any training all the way from Hamburg to my town, no less than 600 kilometers. Can you believe it? This bird was 92-5212278. Later on he would win 7 races among which 2 provincials in 2 weeks’ time. Mr Timmermans got a baby from this 278. It became father of his 99-1944577 which won: 14,454 pigeons – 1st 9.508 pigeons – 1st 10.500 pigeons – 1st In 1992 another important thing happened: A JAPANESE IMPORTER There is this Japanese importer who is always seeking for something new. He does not want birds from great names but from small unknown fanciers. At that time he had never heard about the Belgian where I got Sissi. I told him about the man and said I had 2 birds of his best bloodline. He is a nice Japanese guy so I also warned him these birds were not good-looking as I did not want to disappoint hTime went by and… the children of Sissi won everything for me. ‘What did I do to ship these pigeons to Japan? What a fool I am’ I moaned. This was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life. Strangely enough for a long time I heard nothing from my Japanese client. So I faxed him: ‘How come I do not hear from you?’ ‘What’s wrong?’ ‘Is there a problem?’ Then he faxed me about the 2 pigeons I shipped him. He should have taken my words that they were ugly more serious. Everybody who saw these birds began to laugh and he could not sell one baby of them. He was about to kill them. I said: ‘I am sorry’, (but my heart beat fast for joy) and added ‘I do not want to disappoint you and I will repay the money. But you must send the birds back to Holland.’ You cannot imagine how happy he was. And you cannot imagine how happy I was. This was the best thing that ever happened to me in pigeon sport. ‘Sissi’ came back to Holland. I started breeding from her again and the result you could read before. Later I did another good thing. 1996 I sell pretty many birds to Dutch and Belgian fanciers but in those days, 1993 and 1994 they wanted all my birds apart from the descendants of Sissi. They did not like the dark blue colour and they were too small. No problem I thought. But in 1995 the fame of the descendants of ‘Sissi’ spread like wild fire. In that year I won one race after the other against many thousands of birds, the winners were all descendants of ‘Sissi’. And suddenly everybody wanted ‘Sissi-stuff’. In 1996 I had 4 summer-breds of her. Great Belgian names offered much money for them and I did another good thing: Not fall for the money and keep the birds for myself. LATER ON It stands to reason that later on I went to the man again where I got ‘Sissi’ to buy more birds. None of them were any good. Also the American guy and the Japanese importer realised what a big mistake they made and even bought brothers and sisters of ‘Sissi’. None of them was able to breed any good baby and… they sold them to Taiwan!! THE MORAL A: To get a good bird you need luck. And if you bought pigeons which are no good this does not mean you were cheated. When a pigeon is super it does not necessarily mean her brothers and sisters are also super. Even ‘Sissi’ bred me bad birds. B: What do we know about pigeons? The Belgian guy would never have given me Sissi if he had known it was such a good bird. The great Champions who wanted my pigeons but not those of ‘Sissi’ before 1995 were all wrong in judging the quality of birds. They wanted her children when it was too late and I did not sell them any more. C: You are never sure about the quality of a bird but that is the nice thing about pigeon sport. If we could see a pigeon was good the super birds would soon be in the hands of people with money. D: Most descendants of Sissi are pretty small, especially the hens, but their performances are best in hard races. I think the modern winners in pigeon sport are of the smaller type. This is a contrast with some decades ago, then the birds were bigger. Beware of big pigeons in hard races! It is the smaller types which are often the strongest. E: Forgive me that I mentioned my results. I just wanted to open the eyes of novices and losers so that they may be winners in future!
  23. Hi Gail!
  24. What I would really like to know is who was the fancier with whom you invested your money please Stuart? And are there any youngsters for sale?
  25. I was offered a red mosaic Van Loon cock a couple of years back by a Mr & Mrs Carr of Dundee who used to adertise Planet Van Loons on a semi-regular basis in the BHW (as well as the old Corbetts) and it set the alarm bells ringing, so I phoned up Gary Planet and I asked him if it was possible and he said yes indeed, and that from time to time, the family would throw up reds and mosaics, especially when pairing the Scrumpy x Thunderbird and Whiteflight bloodlines particularely closely together, but I don't think these are the same reds as those being advertised by Jaap on Elimar, which upon inspecting the pedigrees, have definitely got a splash of the old Tournier in them.
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