Well tequilaskylark,lets look at this from another angle,you're obviously not numb and have a reasonable education .You join a pigeon forum and studying BOP you must have gained the knowledge to realise that pigeons are the main diet for various BOP in this Country.A little foresight would have told you not to push the wrong button when asking for help. Look at it another way.I'm now asking the question and it's directed at you. A large BOP has just taken your dog tequilaskylark by the throat and is now proceeding to rip it appart in front of you. What's your reaction to that ? Now you might have an insight to what pigeon fancier have to put up with. Sparrow Hawks, Peregrines and the like have been protected by fools who only have one goal in life ,that's to desimate small birds and blame there demisal on everything except themselves ,the RSPB. I live in the wilds of Cumbria,the fields directly behind my pigeon loft once nested SKYLARKS and hundreds of other small birds ,finches etc.The only birds you see now are jacks,crows,magies and seagulls,that might answer you question. Lindsay C. PS. there's only one place for sparrow hawks and that's no where near my pigeon loft.