aye collin thats whats most pleasing m8 i paired jenna to my silver award cock jamie boy when she was 11th open clermont and and switched away 6 eggs i then paired her to her sire and switched 4 then to her grandsire and switched another 4 and put the 14 yb in the stock loft for the future i then paired jamie boy to his half sister for 4 then to his grandam for another 4 and put the 8 yb in the stock loft and built a wee team of birds around them so the plan seems to be working they will not all be good ones but at least i know for sure that they have the blood lines to do the job and its great fun the winter months planning what to pair to what to try and breed a champion distance bird i really love the breeding side of our sport thanks for all the nice comments lads