micko and jack

I think AND I'M PROBABLY WRONG but we need an extra bit of feeding in the cold so why not the birds would you put warm water in the drinker or anything extra in the drinker

thanks for all the replies BUT should the feed of wheat or barley be supplemented with any other feed or is free access to wheat or barley enough

its really really cold here im in bed with a viral infection got out of bed to go and feed the birds they were ALL in the avairy the lofts well vented but warmer than the avairy then that got me thinking about extra feeding

what would you feed frank im not even thinking about pairing up until end march or even later jack wants out to the loft these days but to be honest i cant stick the cold now should i be feeding peas or something

maybe worth thinking about renting a big van or flat bed lorry and going over by boat yourself just a thought

CHAIRDE FRIENDS every morning they get a handfull of feed (wheat or barley) one night I feed wheat the next barley every 3 day some peanuts with the night feed once a week some oil on the feeding is that enough in this cold weather

silly silly you haha you should know by now people particularly fantail fancies from Ireland are Gods chosen people OFF COURSE WE CAN WALK ON WATER but don't tell anyone its a secret haha hope it picks up as this will be my first Blackpool show and I'm looking forward to the show and equality important meeting the friend I have made on site mick

a andy stop complaining sure haven't you got something WARM AND WOOLLY to cuddle up to haha

i feed barley one night wheat the next a sprinkel of small seeds on top twice a week i have been told by a fancier who mixes his own feed moister content and dust free are the important things to look for

not trying to be funnny but were is the vent is it around the a**e as i have been told to do this with the fantails and cut 7 tail feathers each side should i cut the tail feather of the cocks the same as the hens and do you trim the vent of the cocks also now some my think im mixing but i honestly dont know and if you dont ASK you'll never KNOW

ALWAY ALWAYS better to deal with the organ grinder SMART MAN YOUR FATHER CHARA SMART MAN

tut tut strapper shame on you trademen on the dole and you doing their jobs your a bad bad man haha jes you would not believe the number guys over here out of the building trade and they are all taxi driving now and you say to yourself how the hell are they all getting a turn but in order to pay the bills and feed the kids you have to be able to do a bit of everything

CHAIRDE FRIENDS Al is a very good friend of myself and jack you may remember a few months ago i posted a threat about PADDY and a link to Al's site Paddy a war pigeon from Ireland who is the only Irish recipient of the Dicken Medal i asked you all before to visit Al's site you will even see a bit on jack we all talk about bringing new members into our sport Al's doing his bit please support him visit his site and send him a message and tell him you know jack from belfast it will only take 10 minutes and you Will find some interesting things i know i did GO RAIBH MAITH AGAT THANK YOU mick ps Al great to see you on this site mick and jack

this may sound stupid and I don't know if its do able when I was younger I used to go to my uncles in the country he used to rear pheasants for the gun club I used to give a hand on holidays if a cock bird got to boisterous the uncle used to put specks on them (don't laugh this is true) red blinks things that clipped onto the nose it never stopped them breeding eating or drinking but stopped them fighting

a here lads come on sitting in the office with a heater pete with no heat alan robbing the council and coming clean with an online confession what is the place coming to are you MEN OR WHIMPS joking a side I worked on building sites all my life as a joiner but after I broke my spine and the 2 plates bolted to it I CANNOT STICK THE COLD NOW the colder it gets the worse my pain just read on the news last night this was the coldest December in 30 years just for the record when it comes to the cold IM A WHIMP haha

just like myself mo chara (my friend) trying to learn as i said that why i put the thread up i feed peanuts to the fantails but its allways good to read others thought on it AND WE ALL LEARN EVERYDAY

a friend in America sent me this i thought some maybe interested now i know everyone has different views I DONT KNOW i'm just putting it out there for debate and in the hope that others like myself will learn from the thread mick and jack Peanuts are the most important grain a fancier can feed his birds. We prefer the RAW SPANISH PEANUT because of its small size and uniform shape. However, regular peanuts are just as good, but are larger and odd shaped and more difficult to eat. Both have the same nutritional value and will produce the same great results in the breeding and racing loft. The Raw Spanish Peanuts do have a little better taste. To get the best results from peanuts you must feed them whole, with the skin still on the peanut. This ensures that the birds will get the most value from the peanut. Do not buy halved or crushed peanuts. They lose a great part of their nutritional value in this form, and you will not get the same successful results from your birds. Peanuts should be stored in a cool dry place, free of dampness or moisture. If properly stored, they will last for up to 1 year with no problem. Here in the USA, we buy them in 110 lb. bags direct from the peanut companies. We buy only #1 grade, which are fit for humans. This is the very best quality peanut to feed our birds. The cost is about $1.00 USD per lb. This is one of the best investments a fancier can make to ensure success in breeding and in the racing loft. Why feed peanuts? 1. Peanuts contain the highest oil content, more than sunflower seeds, linseed, hemp seeds and rape seeds. Oil seeds are important for success in long and difficult races. 2. Peanuts have a very high fat content (47%), necessary for birds that are in difficult races and need extra fat for energy in tough races. If they run out of fat, they start to burn up muscle and return home thin and weak. Fat has a much higher energy value than carbohydrates and proteins (almost two and a half times more energy). Researchers have proven feed high in fat results in improved performance in pigeons. Fat is important as the major fuel for racing and any tough prolonged flight. 3. Peanuts have a protein content of 30%, along with high fat content (47%). This source of fat-protein in peanuts is great feed for young birds and birds in the nest. The nutritional value of peanuts is similar to that of cropmilk, which is made up of fat and protein. You should give breeders 1-2 pounds of peanuts per 20 pair breeders per day. This will get breeders in great condition and develop strong healthy young for racing. 4. Peanuts have a nutritional value, measured in calories, 2 times greater than corn, wheat and peas. The peanut is the first class fuel for our pigeons. Peanuts exceed other feeds in energy value by 2 to 1, or twice the value. A feeding of peanuts equals in energy value two full crops of regular feed. The birds are actually eating for two days. If you are comparing it to your car, you would have 2 tanks of gas with peanuts and only 1 tank of gas with normal feed. 5. Pigeons store energy in the form of “GLYCOGEN†in their muscles and liver from the feed they eat. During the race, the glycogen has to be changed into energy, in the same way the engine changes gasoline in your car to energy to move the vehicle. When the glycogen tanks of our birds are empty, they have no more fuel, and our birds are still on the wing (have not reached the loft). They start to burn up their body protein. This means the pigeon has to use up its own body muscles, which causes the bird to lose weight. In very difficult races, they may come home as just feathers and bones, or may never make it home and are lost. Birds that are fed peanuts (47%fat), instead of the normal feed (5-10%fat) low in fat content, can handle the tough races without losing weight or using up their own muscles. They return home in excellent condition to race again the next week in the race series. 6. Peanuts have a protein content of (30%). Protein is very important in the maintenance and repair of damaged muscles and other tissues. When a bird comes home after a tough race and has lost weight, it is important to repair those damaged muscles as soon as possible. This is why we must feed peanuts as a regular part of the bird’s diet during training and the race series. Peanuts will help repair and restore the bird back to normal so it can race next week. 7. Peanuts should be fed everyday, a regular part of birds’ diets. There is a great advantage in feeding plenty of peanuts on the day of basketing or shipping night. This is especially true when birds are kept in shipping crates for 24-48 hours before the race. The pigeon with peanuts has enough food for 2 days. The birds with full crop of peanuts require less water than the birds that have been fed ordinary grain rations. This is important because the birds may not receive the proper amount of water in the shipping crates. Regular grain has to stay a long time in the crop, while soaking up water, to be digested properly, a process that requires a great amount of energy. Peanuts do not need soaking, which means they need little water and leave the crop faster. They are soft, so it takes little energy to digest them. Fanciers who feed peanuts agree that their pigeons are less thirsty, even on hot days. When they return to the loft on the hot, humid days, they are more alert, active and less fatigued. 8. When feeding peanuts, you will never have a trapping problem or lose control of your birds. They love the taste. Birds become tame with no trapping problems and the fancier has complete control of his birds. If the fancier is feeding peanuts to his breeders, then the young birds have already acquired a taste for them. The racing in Taiwan is very difficult on the young racing pigeon. The strenuous schedule or race series and the very young age of the birds require them to have the best food sources, with the greatest nutritional value. Peanuts are superior to any other grain we can give our birds for racing. You should feed them in raw form or as unroasted nuts. When the races are long and tough, and the birds are flying for several hours, the pigeons fed with peanuts do not suffer from muscle loss or loss of weight. Peanuts provide the energy to protect their muscles, to keep their proper weight and stay in shape to race the next week. EVERY CHAMPION LOFT FEEDS THEIR BIRDS PEANUTS!

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just wondering have you your 2010 rings yet someone on ebay has loads that many they are selling them i dont think thats right while fanciers like yourselves WHO COULD BE DOING WITH THEM CANT GET THEM yet this person is selling them in lots of 5 http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2471&_nkw=racing%20pigeons&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_pgn=6

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what pleasure can these thugs get from doing the likes of that like jacks loft getting broken into and birds stolen if they had of seen that wee man searching the yard for his grizzel CRYING my hearth goes out to these fanciers I just hope that local fancier rally around

I was in the gran canaries at the start of the month and tried to get it in the chemists tried about 15 no lie they all refused saying you need a doctors prescription as it was an antibiotic

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