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my suggestion is try and buy a copy of Dave Allens 'A Widowhood year' it will give you the basics of the system easiest way of prepairing is to work backwards from your first race 3 weeks training + breeding + pairing +pre pairing = start date the above book is usualy available through amazon

could fill a few pages with mine past and present , but have a few on my photobucket link below

Welcome to Pigeon Basics , we hope you enjoy the site cant see it not working , some systems will suit one fancier and birds but not others , flying a widowhood bird is easier and dont need training after first race and keep themselves fit , you need to take as much care of the hens as the cocks , the other benifit is the birds fly on a near full wing which gives it an edge on the natural birds but without knowing how they've tried the system hard to say what they did wrong

bet he was one of the Jones family lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good post

pvc cladding lol

that i agree with using antibiotics when unnessasary is totaly wrong Although there are a number of different types of antibiotic they all work in one of two ways: A bactericidal antibiotic kills the bacteria. Penicillin is a bactericidal. A bactericidal usually either interferes with the formation of the bacterium's cell wall or its cell contents. A bacteriostatic stops bacteria from multiplying. Antibiotics are defined as any chemotherapeutic substance designed to kill or hinder the growth of microscopic organisms. Doctors are taught to prescribe antibiotics when they suspect that a particular condition is being caused by a bacterial pathogen. Unfortunately, many doctors also prescribe antibiotics for conditions that caused by known viral pathogens, such the cold or bronchitis. This is unfortunate not simply because of the expense involved or the possibly unpleasant side effects, but because it may wind up harming the immune system. The human immune system is actually a collection of defensive mechanisms against disease, and includes certain tissues, organs, cells, and enzymes. These elements work together to create a disease fighting system more powerful than anything medicine has yet to devise. Even the biggest breakthrough in fighting viruses in medical history, the vaccine, is simply a way to help the natural immune system do its job better. Antibiotics are actually designed to help the immune system do its job, and it may even do that in the short term, but in the long term antibiotics actually suppress the immune system. Firstly, medical antibiotics do not make the immune system stronger, they simply act a replacement for one of its functions: killing harmful bacteria. The immune system functions just like an organ or a muscle. When it is not put to use, it atrophies. So when an introduced agent does one its jobs, the immune system performs that job poorly once the agent leaves the body. This is why someone who takes antibiotics to cure a bacteria based disease may catch the same disease, only with more severe symptoms, at a later time. Antibiotics also do not make the distinction between harmful bacteria and helpful bacteria and cells. They "throw the baby out with the bathwater" so to speak. Certain strains of bacteria in the digestive tract are essential to digest food and produce healthy vitamins. When these bacteria are killed off, it may lead to vitamin loss, diarrhea, parasitic infection, and the development of allergies. Antibiotics, and in particular the over prescription of antibiotics, can create stronger strains of bacteria that even a healthy immune system is not prepared to fight. Throughout the history of biology, the evolution of bacteria, viruses, and hosts have more or less been in harmony. Every time a bacterium or virus became slowly stronger, immune systems have reacted by becoming stronger as well. The introduction of antibiotics through a bit of a monkey wrench into this. As bacteria were killed much more rapidly, they evolved more quickly than the human immune system. This leads to "superbugs," such as the staph bacterium MRSA, which is powerful it can turn deadly within just days. As the little disputed harms of over prescribing ineffective antibiotics become more apparent, and information becomes more widespread, more and more doctors are becoming less willing to dole out antibiotic prescriptions as thoughtlessly as they used to. This is fortunate, as patients might find benefit in simply taking supplements to boost their immune system to fight bacteria and viruses, such as true colloidal silver

Oh, let's not forget that we should also understand the difference between a drug and an antibiotic. Yes, yes, I can already hear the smart remarks. Well, an antibiotic is by most considered a drug, but a drug is not necessarily an antibiotic! An antibiotic works by suppressing the immune system, a drug per se does not affect the immune system at all. So you see there is a real difference. There are hundreds of fanciers misusing antibiotics like Baytril. They attempt to use this 3rd generation antibiotic as a performance enhancer. That is, you use the product, it suppresses the immune system, then as the birds come off it there is a slingshot effect as the immune system seems to go beyond the norm, and bingo, super health. Or is it? No, actually a sure-fire ticket to disaster! Do not use these mega antibiotics unless you have done adequate testing with your avian vet! In most cases less extreme older antibiotics will more than serve your pigeons' health needs.BMJ british medical journal birds have an entirely different system to humans :-/

well she cant be good with his wood lol hence he looked elsewheres lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

you were the first to say red hen was wrong , the antibiotics supress the immune system and deal with the virus simple and if you take the time it tells you on the link i provided think you own red an appologie

follow instructions on medication , scrub loft clean or torch and repeat after 10 days or you wont be clear

your just after her divorce money lmao ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vallance can aford to buy them full and send contents to me to eat , he better get prawn cocktail fer me

i suggest you join a club as soon as possible before the season starts most clubs like to close for applications pretty quick and besides your going to need rings ????

just because they had done nothing for previous owner doesnt mean they'd do nothing for you , maybe his management werent very good who knows , i would suggest you breed from these and learn with them before buying more birds

http://www.silvio-co.com/pigeons/medicati.htm

wrong a antibiotic works by suppresing the immune system thus making them more susceptable to infections whilst clearing the infection !!!!

i did notice a few grizzle florizones for sale at auction im sure these should be good distance birds

take a look at continental lofts they dont have strains and buy just good pigeons and are mainly heinz variety , find a cross that works first then when start loosing there edge find another cross jmo most lofts buy pigeons in soley to try against what they have if there better you shift to the new pigeons simple and try a few old ones crossed to see if improves the new birds if not remove old birds and change to the better birds

i love pouters nice birds and chariters at that

im sure you can contact sec of npa grahamgiddings@aol.com for breeders of these birds , good luck

good and bad birds in every loft , you pay your money and take your chances

well if you have birds mesch or wood wont stop it entering kirky just cleaned the mess a fox left at a loft not so long ago , only good fox is one thats not breathing

hope youve sorted it