pjc

we have seen a recent thread about neighbour problems so its even worth talking to the neighbours first as well.

Mike, good luck with whatever type you decide to keep, we have racers, show racers, Old German Owls and Kormorner Tumblers, which all have there good and bad points. One thing I would comment on in you above posts is that unless you live in the middle of the country with totaly no neighbours then do not think about leaving the birds out to free fly all day long! There are many reasons not to, i.e you will get complaints from neighbours if the birds start going in there gardens or sitting on there roofs, The birds being out will attract raptors and you will start losing birds, The loft being open is the prone to unwanted cat visits etc, You will have no control over your birds if they are allowed to do as they please. If you want to give them plenty of fresh air then design your loft with a flight or aviary so the birds can enjoy controlled freedom while your not there and then you can let them out to fly when you are there. This way you will also get the pleasure from watching them fly and then if the feeding is correct be able to get them back into the loft for security when required. Phil

cheapest to hire a van if they don't deliver.

The royal welsh was 2 wks ago, next i know of is Thame Show, 18th sept.

The owner won't be more than 10/15mins away from you and may even bring you a bit of corn to call the birds down and help to catch it.

Agree with you Rose, Alias's are fine but members should have to register using there correct details and be aproved before being able to post. If try i.d can't be confirmed they should not be permitted to post. There are enough mods in various areas and enough genune members to be able to confirm most fanciers. General public reporting strays maybe should have an open forum/thread where they can post as they are helping us all. Phil

He or the owner will pick it up from you there, if not I know fanciers in Crendon and Haddenham that can help but you may need to catch it. Phil

where are you from AdeKem?

how old is the bird and how far has it got to go to get home?

Agree with you Dovey, its life but there is no need for anybody to swear, or get personaly abusive as has happened in the last couple of days. There are junior members and women who use this forum! Phil

10 from 12's not bad, I know nobody want to lose any but you will have read about members losing far more than that. And still time for them. Phil

on the green ring it will say GB08 followed by a letter and then a 5 digit number, we need all of it please to tell you where its from Phil

how may did you send Wee Gaz?

sure a lot off you losses will be down to the over advanced moult you pictured!

I seem to think its Peter but I don't know why I think that! Got a feeling I rang him with a stray a couple of years ago! Phil

No, SWW

were at Newbury tomorrow, so hope for better conditions!

tues eve i think

don't worry Chris, he can't even spell it, how would he know one!

sure we won't be expecting to see wooden top on the list Chris, snr or jnr!

if you do speak to Roger i am still happy to undertake the original agreed area and he knows where to find me! Phil

As you are prob aware Chris Roger was looking for people to cover areas, sound like you put your self forward as did I. I spoke Roger a few times and then received a txt and e-mail to say they were going live nationaly 2 days after txt. I then e-mail Roger again because I hadn't received any information on the trunking of birds from area to area and also asking for notices etc to put up in local corn stores etc but havn't heard a word since.

he's busy guarding his new bird and putting the razor wire up!

Roger Hughes, Phantom Flyer

Chris, I was also ready for Roger to get started, had a text and e-mail from him to say everything was going live the following day and have heard nothing since! I have txt and e-mailed him without response, shame as seemed to be good!