jimmy white

can just imagine a loaded lead ball ;D ;D ;D perfect aiming with corigation ;D ;D rolling down the back roof of your loft ,,hitting him right in the nut ;D ;D ;D now now , no violence ;D ;D

just did it again today,after 4 days [but after the birds were here for half an hour they went, but locked out their old loft as theve seen the place and will know quite well where to come back,[.tell you tomorrow ;D] maybe not so much tips but common sense ,, first the birds have to be fed and watered in the new loft, [so get them when hungry from last loft],that lets them know theres grub and perch,,, then every day put a basket or a cage where they can see all around , leave them all day in this ,on top of loft ,, seeing the other birds getting a pick now and again through the day,on the loft and on the ground where they can see [small seeds lasts longer doesnt fill them so quick , even seeing other birds in bath [better if unbroken ones never had bath for a while,]," all these things they want, but cant get" untill,,,, then of an evening , i take each bird out seperatly, hold it for a while on top of the loft [up step ladders] whilst feeding others in sputnick, then holding bird on sputnick [seeing the rest eating ] then allmost releasing it at the point of dropping in the sputnick [making sure it goes in and get a pick] i do this with every bird every day , then when hungry, [have the other birds out and landed] i open sputnick front and feed small amounts off seed all over,[in the evening,late] top of loft,sputnick [inside and out] and ground , have the bath ready if they want,, the idea [even if they go back to old loft], is try and hold them their for as long as poss so that they know thats were the grub is ,, no feeding at all or entering old loft ,,,,,theyll remember where they got that pick when their crops tell them i once broke a bird, trained the bird, scored at 505 miles national ,,all in three weeks :) true,, broke a 5 year old dark cock, that had flown up to 550 miles for previous owner in 4 days [driving] ,,,sounds daft,, but making the bird like you, having confidence in you ,trusting you ,,all helps in settling new birds

yip ,,bang on there ,, one of the greats davie angus,, and the breeding genes still in winning birds today,, geordie bain,, the first gold award winner had a few of his birds , , but going on about dampness,,still the worst thing,,for anything [exept fish ;D] but theres dampness and dampness , even if your loft is bone dry,, your footprints in winter will cause dampness,,,,but the secret is good air flow and good ventilation, a little shower blowing through the front is unavoidable ,and of course there are days when the air is really damp, this is natural to birds and is all part of nature , clinical dryness is not needed , but a damp loft with no air circulation , over a while , is suicidal

nowt wrong with them,,,the first pic, the bird has just threw its first flight , reckoned to be in the best nick for racing,,, the other has moulted 6 flights and would be" past its racing form" [and body moulting]

what an absolute cracker of a photo,,, looks so calm and sedate , beautifull

please please please ,, dont even think about blaming the fifer,, never in a million years ,, this man has done far more good for the pigeon fanciers ,[without making a big deal out of it , not even asking for a thankyou] i dont blame you for being upset, at the carry on your having, but dont get paranoid, and start blaming wily nily,, im sure , with a wee bit patience , youll find out who is the culprit ,[or find out away to stop your birds moulting ;D] no, im sure this will surface ,,and youll get to the bottomof it,, it is rediculous someone moaning about feathers ,, never mind, the leaves will overtake the feathers shortly , , wonder if the neighbour will complain to the council about them,,they probably will ;D, thats when the council find out the crackpots, and allthough they have to follow up,,,will take no notice, as they will be well used to them

congratulations to all that timed in the pentland "prepaid nominated bird race]] mid week race from newark,,,,,1st k newcombe £2,657 2cnd r kinnear £2.657 3d b johnstone£737 4th a, millar [forum member ] £1,997 5th g hunter £807 6th k newcombe £607 41 lofts sent 91 birds £9,000, in pools and prizemoney [this is only first six] i asked andy millar what he was going to do about the begging letters ,,,he just said ,,keep sending them ;D ;D ;D

yes,, not only pigeon fanciers read the web page :o,,,,,,see my PRIVATE e mail to rspb on hawks posts [previous page], i note they mention pigeon b ,, i didnt :-/ :-/ :-/

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if the 2 year old, onwards, have bred winners i leave them,, if they havent, [but won themselves] would change the pairs ,,,as for the yearlings, find it less bother to have" love matings" i have found they race better and[ if the quality of your birds are good ] seem to even breed better yb,s

well done vic great job done

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well done brian and ryan ,,brilliant result

yes, as long as the eggs are turned regular ,,,and they havent started incubating providing you keep them sitting on dummies

best of luck bart ,, same here at the moment,, a bad time for them is now,

in my opinion ,, dont think it would do the birds any good,,, or make them any better,,,,,might make them happier though ;D ;D ;D

no info ,,shall report through union

not getting much luck,, how old are young

even if it was for charity,," round the uk" would put the pigeons in a better light ,and make good news coverage ,,even tv , but even a race would be interesting [remember lots of things could come good with that,, hawks etc :-/]

this is the tell tale sign ,,bubbles on the bottom eyelid ,,,but other than that , could have damaged its eye or even something in it [although unusual , as a pigeon has a third eyelid that protects it ,,,acts like a windscreen wiper ] as for a parrot , i couldnt advice [even though i have one ] vets the best for that one

it is usually a respiratory problem which could lead to blindness ,,, but could also lead to a more serious ornithosis, then with secondary infection ,, etc, but can be treated easily to begin with ,,, I'm not sure if this could be the same in parrots [i do know that African Grey's are very good at masking over any disease]

brilliant chat.. :) good for pb :) looking at the clip, the birds look as fit as a fiddle , great going ,,, best of luck marvelous job

yes have seen bob macdonalds ko nipius ,, allways look the tops ,,,,would i be right in saying the ko nipius are closely related to the van geels and jan aardens??

never hears of that in African Grey's ,,but possible,, i know that a child's spit contains some sort of cleanser and antibiotic which can cure a pigeon with one eyed cold [usually due to some respiratory prob] better with vet ,,good luck to your freind