Totally agree Mick but its all our own fault, we accepted another secretary that doesn't know the tradition of the SNFC and what it stands for. The best secretaries in the past have had an affinity with the SNFC and indeed were good nat.fanciers in their own right or at least had strong family connections to the SNFC.I cant blame Andy Garven for anything, he has done the job asked of him. Now he has retired its up to the members to get the professionalism back to the once biggest, most prestigious club in Britain, so get off yer azz and lets all attend the agm AND GET IT SORTED.