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thanks jon....how you doing, have you got yours paired yet (sent you pm jon)

hi gladdo, yes you are right, it is water thats spilled. today ive put some floor whitener in and its dried it up, just hope it doesnt swell the chipboard... thanks for the advise...

hi andy...thanks ill give it a go, see how they are. thanks.

hi lister, they are all yearlings....

thanks b.m.o.m. they have been locked in for past 2 days ,some have took to each other but others are not interested and fighting like mad... any suggestions anyone?

here are a few pics of my birds....put new nestboxes in last week and put birds together yesterday. some are pairing straight away...some arent interested at the moment...... :-/

roland, the cliff fields was a.b.a. champion and then turned pro and won the southern area championship...he was also a contender for the british title. i also found this which says he beat lenny mclean twice and not once...hope it is of interest to you. Cliff Fields, born 06/03/1943 in Dunstable, England, also known as "Cliffy Field" and "Iron Man", was a former bare-knuckle boxing champion during the 1970s and 1980s. He also spent time in the Royal Navy, where after he trained and lived in a scrapyard to become a bareknuckle boxing champion after being refused a licence by the British Boxing Board of Control because he lost an eye by being glassed during a bar-room brawl. He is notable for having beaten Lenny McLean twice, both time by knockout in the first round. McLean described Fields as "something that had some out of the mountains".

vallance is right...lenny mclean was beaten on a few occasions, johnny waldren beat him twice, cliff fields beat him once and roy shaw beat him once...all by knock out, he was also beaten on pionts by kevin paddock. roland, there are always rumours surounding fighters, and a lot of their victories are embellished but the simple fact is that bartley gorman was unbeaten and no man could ever lay claim to beating him, he also issued challanges to shaw and mclean but they never fought him....

51 years old here and can still fight...

Bartley Gorman, undefeated......

thanks everyone...been trying for last 15 mins, :B simple when you know how thanks.

hi,im wanting to write under my avatar and cant find how to do it... i know they say chipping/hatchling etc, but some members write a message themselves...anyone know how ? thanks.

hi thanks for all your imput...this is an updated message my friend sent me; regards mo. For your information his name is Mudasar Hayat. address 28 Halbrow Crescent, Somerset BS16 2NF Phone no. 07830785 708. He also stopped the courier on the way, changing the pick up point which was atthe address 51 Charlton Road, Kingswood Bristol BS15 1ly, and asked him to collect birds outside of a pub. The woman spoke on the phone in posh accent saying the butler would be handing them over her name was Anna. He turned up with another woman that may have been of Asian origin. He advertises in the OODLE.com website selling fairy swallow exhibition standard. I managed to get him off 2 websites, bird trader and The Fridays ads, but cannot with oodle. Hope this helps others, regards mo. hope this is of interest to others, and maybe stop him conning another fancier... thanks david.

yes, good idea....thanks. i will have to email him and get full details. thanks vey much. will post when i get it.

hi, been asked by friend who is not a member of this site to circulate this information to other fanciers, this is his message to me....... Hi is me again with trouble. I ordered some pigeons from a seller in the bird trader which came to £277.00, for high quality show pigeons. On arrival, by the courier I checked them, and found they were not at all what I had asked for they were cross no rings and that he would have to return them. The seller refused to answer the phone or texts. They arrived in completely inappropriate boxes, covered in duct tape, urine sodden with food thrown in. I have photographed this as evidence. I also believe that he is operating under another name now. I thought that you should know before he does this to someone else. I did not take delivery of the birds and they went back with the courier. I was concerned about the state and would not have been able to put them with my existing birds. This scammer is from Somerset gave the courier a different name and address in Bristol and then arranged with the courier to meet with them in front of a pub called the George in Bristol. He advertised Kings, Modena, Fairy swallows jacobins Dutch tumblers in his ad. So please circulate this information to everyone you know in the pigeon world, please to make them aware of this dangerous scam. Copy & paste my page and circulate on other websites, as I am only a member here at the moment. regards mo. maybe might help other fanciers to not get conned.....or any info would be good, thanks.

did it a few weeks ago...never do it again, water all over the place then spilt it lifting the bath out, took days to dry out. ive got my floor covered in chip board and luckily it didnt lift at the edges...

birds looking well david...great to see you back.

welcome to the site geoff...( is that the old geoff walker or the young... ):-/

thought about it many times bewted...as i say all birds with this ive known have been strays...have any birds with this won races ??? have birds been sent to a race with the curling and the fancier has pooled it to win thinking it was a sign of fittness ???

thanks jason, could be right...they have a lot of bloom on them and some of them have got feathers curling out on side of wings (dont know what its called...ticking ?) which i always thought means sign of fittness...although birds ive known with this curling have always been strays so work that one out??? lol , thanks for your reply jason..

thought with all these members some one would know without catching and looking.....experience of racing pigeons should give some idea...im new back to pigeons so vIrtual novice really... ah well........

anyone know what this mark is....? when birds have been out for excercise on a couple of them i noticed a dark greasy mark on the end flights about half way along the flight...wears off later in day.... looks like its on about the 2nd/3rd flight in...(havnt caught it and looked)

depends on what size dowel you are using...i used 14mm dowel and did one and a half inch centres...

another row brewing "me thinks"..........unbelieveble... :)

by the way malonebros...good luck with selling your birds, im sure they will go...