just ask me

paddys day they were all drinking like mad a day behind ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i look for birds that are winning today and winning for others also i look for people that have close enough the same set up as my own this is very important as with some lofts we have seen the pics we cant have the same set up also some fanicers would win no mater what u give them just great pigeon men so they must be winning in different areas also when buying i buy off birds that are winning today in the loft what i mean by this is i really don't look back in the pedigree to see what birds done 10 15 years ago only reason id look further back than grandparents is too see what way this man is pairing his birds so in short really simple set up birds winning in different areas buy off birds in the fanicers loft that are winning now also fancier living in bad location what i mean by this is a fancier don't have to have loads of firsts if there are no one else in the results in his area and he gets in that will do for me after that train hard race hard and try to breed around one or two birds as they all might look good quality but one thing pigeon men cant tell is what is in there heads and hart hopefully u will see a common denominator with one hen or cock coming though then just breed around that one or two pigeons

i know its a bit of the point sorry if to far off but ain't it amazing what pigeon men have done with pigeons in such a short space of time we have them in all shapes and sizes feathers sticking out of every where tumblers tipplers pigeons that fly at unbelieve speeds or real long distance and that just some of it it should really be looked at what the pigeon men have done i mean in a scientific way it really does amaze me

yes and both Ron and Bert are both genius with pigeons and brilliant lofts too it would be hard to match there management system

soonjens from the right people

not really saying anything about colours to be honest colurs dont bother me just the good ones lol apart from a few they really havent took off like people said they would the roland jannens the rdd although knocking around a while there havent been enough to be around i think to pass comment the nest few year will tell it seems as there are a few here with them

question and do disrespect to any one i do read results inside out but with the amount of Roland jannsens in the uk should there really be not more wining with them i do see a few doing well with them but when u look through the bhw and read the results the not to many i find i realise that there are a few but then again some people will win no matter what u give them

i tought u were there allready ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

louis cooremans there wining where ever they go really look at the results they tell all as where other families are more hype results always tell the truth

ure right timbarra but when space is an hindrance means must really when they are rearing youngers id put them on open hole u are right but to keep one loft to race maybe 5 pigeons is not ideal either it would be grand if we all had 10 acres lol there would be no problems what i do u i have mine trapping though open door i build a big wire frame to put in the space of about 4 x 4 foot when they are not out and this is put up when not raining what i would say is that a tiled roof would help greatly timbarra i do agree with u whole hartley its not ideal but at times i think means must :-/

would agree with most of it but as we say many roads lead to rome i feel there no need for 4 tosses from 50 mile 1 or 2 would do for me id keep them at 30 mile or bit less even what i do if they dont come in is straight into the basket when they come home and straight back up the road again remember when training youngsters i think its better to give them 3 tosses from 15 mile lets say than 1 toss from 50 or 60 mile as the more they are in the basket the better also u are not teaching pigeons to find there way home they either have it or they don't its getting them fit is what u are dong by training and also getting them used to being in the basket

mate there loads of widowhood flyers flying there cocks into a loft this size if im right (most likely not ;D) i think u can fit 12 widowhood cocks into a section this size what i would say if u can get a tiled roof onto this loft im sure if u do searches here u will see loads with these red tiles this will help greatly with ventilation although it will hold 12 boxes i think id say maybe 10 widowhood cocks is about right if u are making a stock loft out of it a cage aviary is a great thing as if u have prisoner stock u can give them baths in it and they get out in the fresh air i would go as far to say that a aviary on a stock loft is a must as what i do is lock them out there when not breeding with a grid floor then clean once a week keeps down on the work best of luck keep asking questions people on here will allways try to honest answer

are they finished rearing yet

how many onces u feeing per bird and what type of corn

down too feeding mate what u feeding how much that will help members also how many birds u keep size of loft if we know a little about your set up we can hep better but i would say u are feeding wrong

mate that happens every where u wouldn't belive some if the excuses Ive heard from when pigeon trapping crow flying in his path right when he entering the loft cat in garden hawk just over loft to falling over when getting bird dropping rubber there lots more this is some that i heread off one member in one old bird season he was very unlucky ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

jimmy is right i don't think u can teach them as say yearlings or two year olds teach them when they are young once they have good habits it becomes natural for them when they come home its straight into the loft

would agree with this

could u have 2 hens paired two one cock

probably first two eggs are dead u can take them out she will sit other two that if there a cock or hen if there dead eggs there are a number of causes why that can happpen

cheeky so and so ;D ;D ;D

am young meself ;D do i sound old :-/

some real nice birds there u must have a good eye for a bird well done

breed and wean is what mine get i get healthy young ones droppings do be great too with it i find

i would just like to add as far as i can see this site is run with excellent mods and also Richard and gemma do a great job its one of busiest pigeon sites out there and is run i think in an excellent manner and for someone to come on after a few posts and try to say that the site is run wrong (not if we dont know who u are ) shame on u this site the last few months has been running so smoothly im sure Richard and gemma will deal with instances of abuse as they see fit which will definitely keep me happy