just ask me

would a car fan not just blow air around the loft :-/

that why extractor fans work a treat they just take air out and if air going out it has to replaced so on days like u are talking about works a treat

im a bit lost then so if its warm do u open door and leave light in

do u not darken them :-/

quite true but i feel the less distractions widowhood birds have the better and most darken there widowhood cocks

hard to do for widowhood flyers with your sensible answers ;D ;D ;D ;D

extractor fans are great to use

quite true just watch out hae seen last few year sum guys having a few clearnces also a proven breeder at a clerance sale most times cost quite a bit that why i stick too youngbirds if at all possible

widowhood only way ask people who work that my advice and same as Owen any questions mate just ask way too much traning needed to compete at a high level flying natural

when buying birds if at all possible i buy yearlings for the reason there not tried so the owner doesn't know how bad or how good he is as a breeder that just my thinking

i just race fed races really not by choice i must say but best thing ever happened go to a club in another marking station give lads there few pound they put it up for a race give them a hand marking that way u are not involved in the crap that goes on

well done

what a book to read some of feeding methods might be out of date but the breeding part class

well most strains grow and look something else if u keep at it who breeds for looks who breeds to try make the birds look like 20 30 years ago i know i dont aint the whole point to look the future and try make faster pigeons than what has gone before i look at the family of birds that i have and i know i dont look back as to what was winning in 80s or 90s even i want what winning today weather that be down off some super couple that he owned in 80s or 90s it does not bother me if he has a pigeon that racing well today i will try obtain as close to him or her as i possibaly can in other wards i try too look forward and not try to copy what he has done 20 years ago

i think what he means is the skin colour at about 8 day old some pll dont like to see them ue in colour they like that nice pink golden looking colour some top fanicers have a belief in this

takes all kinds really what i do advise when buying anything wether that be croosed or inbred buy young that way the person that selling it dont know how good it is as a breeder

i started up a few year ago i paid a few pound for a certain strain and topped up young bird team with louella birds so all in all roughly about half and half the loulla birds were every bit as good if not better in saying that i bought in another family birds year after and they both there asses one cock went on to bred a real good pigeon scored highly in big races

as i say if people pay the price they must think its worth it have seen birds go for 1000 i wouldn't put in my loft for free and birds go for 50 to 100 that i would have paid a lot more for but sure its that age old problem we cant buy them all due to space and other things

getting to that age ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i love im

great for the site to see it growing when its so strong all ready goes well for the future

i don't leave them over night give them half hour to an hour at start of the season then building to 3 4 hrs i really dont think it makes a difference the big things with hens is that they give the cock all he attention that what really important your hens could be in every bit of good condition as the cocks this is a downfall with most widow hood flyers belive me its one of the major secrets seen many a time where hens are thrown in some poky loft bottom of garden in bad conditions

or way i did it was 56-5=51-6=45 4+5=9 21-2=19-1=18 8+1 =9 just another way

ive ruined it now she killing me here ;D

exacilly i just worked it out too