retired

;D ;D ;D He has had enough luck this year dont you think!!!!!

Joe (Still think Lucie should be there though!!!!)

Has to be Ryan Giggs this year.

Lots 14 & 18 Sold pending payment

Lot 5 Now sold pending payment Birds remaining for sale from this draft Lot 6 Lot 9 Lot 11

We will allow enteries for the show classes until 7pm this evening. Many of the people who made the requests for these shows havent entered them which is a shame.

Its deffo Gold as tried myself about 30 minutes ago to change it from 'Gold' to 'Dark Gold' Phil will get a sale going to get you some nice sunglasses for when your on here ;D

Points taken Duncan. I still think the best method was the one created by Richard, however it didnt work for whatever reason - It isnt for Fifer or myself to judge that method and as i said we both rated the system but couldnt see a way to implement it succesfully. We plan to keep this method for the forseeable future although we will certainly listen to the members on how to improve it and will reassess it on a regular basis. The £25 fee - Some will think its cheap and some will not agree with it at all - It would at 10% i would think cost people more than the £25 in a year however we are looking to offer value to the members with the Gold membership whilst having a figure that will help support the running costs of the site. Hope this anwsers some of what was on your post.

Just going to try and clear up a few questions from earlier in the thread that i (and i dont think) Fifer has anwsered. Buyer Conditions - Mentioned by LWB - We are currently working on a system with regards to buyers on the site and a method to detract unsavoury bidders and to protect the sellers -As has always been practice the seller has the right to have a selling thread locked and all interest be declared via PM. Company Advertising - Also something we are working on - We have a few options on this to think about regarding how to work it - Any companies that are interested can drop either Fifer or myself a PM as spaces will be very strictly limited.

Lots 8 & 12 Now sold pending payment

Lot 13 sold pending payment

Lots - 7 10 13 Now sold pending payment

Afraid not - Fifer is typically Scottish ;D

Fifer and myself have split the topic that was created on the guidelines thread. We understand there will be questions regarding the new system, and also further ideas and feedback on it. If anyone has any questions etc we will do our best to answer them for you.

The rules have been placed on in a similar way to a fair usage policy as per most things you sign up for now. We were very reluctant to change the selling system on site but due to a very poor response over the last 12 months or so to the previous rules (10% of each sale) hands were tied really.

Lot 1 Sold pending payment Lots 2 & 4 sold pending payment

21 sold pending payment 22 sold pending payment

For sale - Steve Stoker Delbar's - Offered on Behalf of Steve The following birds are offered for sale at fixed price - All will be supplied with full handwritten pedigrees. Top lines of Petit Bleu, Angouleme, Irish Mint, etc The pictures dont do the birds justice and the birds handle really fantastically with a great constitution. The birds can be delivered to Blackpool Free of Charge - However im afraid due to being let down last time - Payment be it full or a non refundable deposit is required - I am in the show Friday afternoon and all day Saturday and Sunday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 13 Sold Pending Payment 2007 Bred BB Cock £50.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 14 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred GP Cock £50.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 15 2009 bred CP Hen £50.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 16 2009 Bred CP Hen £50.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 17 2009 Bred latebred (sex believed correct but not guaranteed) BP Hen £50.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 18 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred (Old Ring 2006) - latebred BWF Cock £40.00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Following 4 Lots are different breeds - It will state on each lot, which breed etc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lot 19 2009 Bred - Marcelis x Delbar Red Cock £40.00 No Pedigree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 20 2008 Bred - Marcelis x Delbar D Cheq Hen £40.00 No Pedigree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 21 Sold Pending Payment 2002 Bred - Marcelis Red Cock Sire of 1st Prizewinners £50.00 No pedigree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 22 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred - Maurice Matthuews x Chris Gordon BP Hen Dam - Direct Maurice Matthuews Winner of 1st Section, 3rd Open National Flying Club St Naziarre - 400+ Miles (1st & 2nd Open were flying approx 150 miles less) Sire - Bred by Chris Gordon £50.00 Full detailed pedigree supplied and proof of dam's win ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For sale - Steve Stoker Delbar's - Offered on Behalf of Steve The following birds are offered for sale at fixed price - All will be supplied with full handwritten pedigrees. Top lines of Petit Bleu, Angouleme, Irish Mint, etc The pictures dont do the birds justice and the birds handle really fantastically with a great constitution. The birds can be delivered to Blackpool Free of Charge - However im afraid due to being let down last time - Payment be it full or a non refundable deposit is required - I am in the show Friday afternoon and all day Saturday and Sunday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 1 Sold Pending Payment 2006 Bred BWF Cock Something special to begin with - Bred from Steve's 18 Year old stock cock - Proven breeder many times over (as expected of a bird of that age) - This will be the very last bird offered from the old cock. £120.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 2 Sold Pending Payment 2008 Bred BP Cock £75.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 3 Sold Pending Payment 2006 Bred BB Hen £75.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 4 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred Cheq Pied Hen £75.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 5 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred BP Hen £75.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 6 Sold Pending Payment 2008 Bred Cheq Hen £75.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 7 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred BBWF Cock £60.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 8 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred Pencil Blue WF Cock £60.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 9 Sold Pending Payment 2009 Bred BP Hen £60.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 10 Sold Pending Payment 2008 Bred BB Hen £60.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 11 Sold Pending Payment 2008 Bred BB (Tic Eye) Hen £60.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lot 12 Sold Pending Payment 2006 bred BB Hen £60.00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There is an additional 10 Lots to come online later tonight

How to sell on Pigeon Basics Pigeonbasics will now operate with a Gold Membership for people wishing to sell on the site. Selling Options 1. A one off payment of £25.00 for One year's gold membership to the site - This allows the gold member unlimited sales on site in that period. 2. For those wishing to just sell the odd item the cost is £10 per advert. no additions can be put on once a sale has been posted, , How to Pay Payment for gold membership or one off payments can be made by the following methods - - Paypal to forum@pigeonbasics.com - An invoice can be sent on request. - Cheque or postal order made payable to Pigeonbasics.com - Please contact Fifer or Vallance for postal address. Selling Rules and conditions - Gold members are not permitted to sell Items on behalf of another member (or non member) unless pre-approved by Admin. This includes adverts for forthcoming auctions whether public or online. - Items placed for sale on the boards by anyone other than gold members or one off sellers will be removed without notice. - Any thread the Admin or Moderators deem to be advertising will be removed without notice - This includes third party ads. - We expect you to conduct yourself with honesty and integrity at all times, and with every interaction with other members that you make. - After posting items for sale you are expected to check your topic and/or PMs regularly to deal with enquiries, if you suspect you will be offline list a telephone number for your items. - Non Gold Members known to be selling via the Private Message function will have their PM facility removed. Additional Information we require from you We require further information to process your application to become a gold member on Pigeon basics - This information is - •Your Full Name •Flying/Member Name •Full Address •Telephone number (and mobile if available) •Email address •Loft number (or other union information if applicable) All information will be stored in accordance with the Data Protection Act - we reserve the right to release the information in exceptional circumstances to the relevant authorities or to a buyer in the case of an unresolved dispute. Buyers and Sellers are responsible for there own selling and buying on Pigeonbasics.com - We do however reserve the right to withdraw gold membership for poor selling conduct.

How to sell on Pigeon Basics Pigeonbasics will now operate with a Gold Membership for people wishing to sell on the site. Sales must run for no longer than 10 days Selling Options 1. A one off payment of £25.00 for One year's gold membership to the site - This entitles you to unlimited sales on the site in this period. 2. For those wishing to just sell the odd item the cost is £7.50 per advert up to £150 in value and an additional 10% after this threshold. How do you police this?? How to Pay Payment for gold membership or one off payments can be made by the following methods - - Paypal to forum@pigeonbasics.com - An invoice can be sent on request. - Cheque or postal order made payable to Pigeonbasics.com - Please contact Fifer for postal address. Selling Rules and conditions - Gold members are not permitted to sell Items on behalf of another member (or non member) unless pre-approved by Admin. This includes adverts for forthcoming auctions whether public or online. - Items placed for sale on the boards by anyone other than gold members will be removed without notice. - Any thread the Admin or Moderators deem to be advertising will be removed without notice - This includes third party ads. - We expect you to conduct yourself with honesty and integrity at all times, and with every interaction with other members that you make. - After posting items for sale you are expected to check your topic and/or PMs regularly to deal with enquiries, if you suspect you will be offline list a telephone number for your items. - Non Gold Members known to be selling via the Private Message function will have their PM facility removed. Additional Information we require from you We require further information to process your application to become a gold member on Pigeon basics - This information is - •Your Full Name •Flying/Member Name •Full Address •Telephone number (and mobile if available) •Email address •Loft number (or other union information if applicable) All information will be stored in accordance with the Data Protection Act - we reserve the right to release the information in exceptional circumstances to the relevant authorities or to a buyer in the case of an unresolved dispute. Buyers and Sellers are responsible for there own selling and buying on Pigeonbasics.com - We do however reserve the right to withdraw gold membership for poor selling conduct. Without refund

lol - It was the same in Belgium Anto, at the Bevern Hotel noticed free internet never seen two blokes face's light up so much - Micky Massarella and Black WF couldnt make there excuses quick enough to get down into the hotel lobby. ;D

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Have to agree the courier i use goes to Scotland via SPDS and never had a single problem with them. Not sure what take SPDS have on the job though as think my man maybe is undercharging me as he charges the same for anywhere in the United Kingdom (except Northern Ireland)

Its on this link http://www.pigeonglobe.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl?m-1252573392/s-new/ think you can take the code from there